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dhoti_prasad
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Posted on 09-20-05 12:59
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Is Murari Raj Sharma the same person who used to work in IAAS Rampur ? Can anyone post his picture here please ?
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Posted on 09-22-05 9:35
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Mr. SHahi, Honestly every body wants freedom, peace, stability. Thats just human nature. I a neutral person and would like to see peace back in Nepal. Please look at the issues. How the people can believe that its for good cause when Sujata Koirala is there in the rally. DO not you think thats enough to create doubts? People in rally are so pro republic. But could you explain how would you keep the maoists out from power if there is republic? Do not you think that Nepalese had enough with all the fake promises from monarchy to the parties to the maoists to make them skeptical? I am skeptic. The presence of opportunists makes me more skeptic. If Murari in the current rally and Sujata in the previous rally were not the chief guest thats ok. But there is still underlying issue ie; they are there to take the opportunity. You should look at that. You shpuld be able to come up with the plan to marginalize the opportunists and the corrupt when democracy returns. You should be able to show how the republic is possible without maoists coming tgo power. For my sake, I do not see a logic behind fighting for from one corrupt to another. If you talk about democracy, was there really a democracy when there was party rule?? Peace
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Posted on 09-22-05 11:54
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I dont really care if MRS wants to establish democracy or wants republican State. I think you guys (NY Rally WALA haru) should think twice before appreciating his attendance in that rally. Thats fine he was out spoken against king, fine he is rally supporting democracy, fine he appreciate republican state but why against country ? For god sake, he was/is representating singo Nepal why he is conspiring against his own motherland "to not let her participate in 60th summit" ? What you guys expect from this kind of people ?
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prem_dai
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Posted on 09-22-05 12:24
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Barmu as he is... for personal gains he will naturally do anything. It's no wonder to me.
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nayana
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Posted on 09-22-05 2:05
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Mr PRS you've been saying again & again that the "NY rally Wala haru" did not want Nepal to participate in the 60th summit, for no apparent reason whatsoever. Can you make me aware when & where they've expressed such kind of anti nationalistic feeling? Either I've been sleeping all this while or you want people to believe what you want to believe. If you want to know the fact which you may find it bitter to swallow, we wanted somebody who truely represented Nepali people, somebody elected by the Nepali people to participate in the UN summit. KG & his group of ministers do not represent the whole of Nepal. He represents only a small group of people with mediocre mind who do not want to change with time. As for MRS attending the NY rally, remember this was a rally organized by Democratic people people with democratic views. So naturally they would welcome anbody who wanted to voice their opinion. Remember how they welcomed a group of Pro King people during the 1st rally in DC? They are a group of broad minded people which the pro king wala could never be.
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Posted on 09-23-05 7:10
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Why don't read truth story? Your are right anti Raw! Murari Raj was most corrupt and greedy foreign Secretary, when he was in power he upgraded his own cousin brothers of Bhojpur, from Kharidari Post to Section Officer and sent both of them in New York and Washington DC, as First Secretary respectively You imagine if some one was competent for section officer why should those guys hang on with Kharidar Post? I personally congratulated those Lucky Kharidars on being promoted to Section Officers and posted one of the prestigious Places such as Washington and New York. Even if they did not know how to response English letter to appropriately. Another Nonsense things Murary Baje did was, his own brother was hired as Ambassador Maid in New York at his own resident and his own Bhanja was hired as Office Assistant in New York Mission when he was Permanent Representative to New York Mission. Another Sala was able to get in our Embassy London. For personal reason I don't want to mention their name if it is necessary I will come with 100 % proof. This is an example of Murari Baje's honesty when his was in power. Murari betrayed his motherland and his own images. I wish to inform to the Secretary General of UN not to count on such a betrayal person Murari who was a crook from Bhojpur. Nepal sham on you Murari Baje.
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prem_dai
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Posted on 09-23-05 9:10
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Birkhe, you idea of informing to Kofi Annan, General Secretary of UN is not a bad idea... but do not forget the fact that Kofi Annan himself is looked upon as a CORRUPT person.. He almost had to leave GS of UN due to his involvement in "Oil for Food" program of UN to IRAQ. His son was involved in bribing and so on in that program.. But Kofi Annan didn't resign.. what a shame.. he only said SORRY. Testa manchhe lai report garera kehi pani hundaina.. haha... Everywhere these leaders are corrupt....
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nayana
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Posted on 09-23-05 1:41
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I'm sorry, my response was meant for pisces.
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hari_sarki
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Posted on 09-25-05 3:08
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"Murari Raj Sharma attended the rally on the capacity of an ordinary Nepali living in the US who believes in democracy in Nepal, like every other nearly 400 people who were there" ANIL.J.SHAHI. - We all know that you have lost your hair, but we didn't know that you've lost your vision too. Or was it that your vision was impaired temporarily by the sun-glasses you had on? What 400 people are you talking about? There were no more than 200 in that crowd. I'm sure you've clips of the event. Count the heads carefully! The most you'll find is 200 - 157 to be precise. In regards to Murari Raj Daka - I think we both know who he is and what he has done for Nepal. Thus, I don't want to elaborate more. Bottom line is he should not be representing Nepal at the UN. An individual who shits in the same plate he eats in, cannot and should not be allowed to represent the Nepalease people.
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Nepe
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Posted on 09-25-05 7:26
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I do not know the point of number games (Ramesh Nath Pandey counted 50 people at the rally !), however it is not going to change the fact that the pro-democracy activism is very high and going up and up in mass, intensity and openness as compared to pro-king one. Can our pro-king Sajhaites provide some respected name from Disapora in the pro-king camp ? Let's hear the names. *** *** *** *** *** Murari Raj Sharma is very open about his professional life and political views. Read this question/answer at freenepal.org. - http://www.freenepal.org:8080/FreeNepal/action/discussion.do;jsessionid=4EA9D61283F764E3ABF8DDC7460606EF?currentContentId=83
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prem_dai
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Posted on 09-25-05 9:19
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So, shall we start worshipping Mr. Sharma?
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prem_dai
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Posted on 09-25-05 9:22
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Ask yourself.... do you like when Khum Bahadur Khadka type of people tell you that they are sincere towards pro-democracy movemement and they will contribute from their hearts.
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Nepe
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Posted on 09-26-05 2:49
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A picture of a pro-democracy rally, particularly for those pro-king fellas interested in counting the heads. . . Pro-democracy mass meeting at Kirtipur today
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SHIV
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Posted on 09-26-05 3:43
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What is this pro-democracy rally has to do with murari raj sharma... are we trying to make a spaghetti here ;-) As per his statement he is still drawing salary and he is opposing the government that he represents!!!! Imagine if a public employee nominated by bush goes against Bush; than he will be fired in an instant Bush will not even wait the next day? Nepal lacks public policy where these types of activities should be made illegal. If MRS has disagreements (he should resign first) than he has full right to do what he wants but not draw the salary and stab on the back of the people that he represents. I will not be surprised if MRS has already filed Asylum in US and these statements are made to strengthen his case?
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Nepe
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Posted on 09-26-05 5:53
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Shiv, What do you mean by spaghetti ? Are you expecting everybody to eat flippant anti-Murari sel-roti some of you are cooking ? As for picture, regard it as a picture of thousands Murari Rajs, I would say rather a step ahead of Murari-jee (in terms of pro-republican determination), marching in Kathmandu for democracy. *** *** *** *** Citizen's movement is a rebellion against political parties Citizen's movement for democracy is essentially a rebellion against political parties. An unarmed, peaceful, polite and soft rebellion against political parties' failure to unambiguously commit to the fight for full democracy in the country and within the parties themselves. This rebellion is starting to show it's effect. The rebellion should continue, which is basically not let the citizen's movement to integrate into political parties' agitations until the parties come up with new leadership and believable determination for Loktantra. Active apathy to political parties' ambiguous slogans, disrespect to their old and inept leadership and non-solidarity to their aimless routine agitations on one hand and regular and independent program of citizen's own movement on the other are how it should go. And it indeed is going this way on. I am actually disappointed with Murari-jee's speech at NY Rally. My disappointment is for it's failure to recognize the subtle yet rebellious character of Citizen's movement and it's significance in democratizing (both at ideological and organizational level) democracy-challenged political parties of Nepal I talked about above. Nepe One more picture from Kirtipur:
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Nepe
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Posted on 09-26-05 5:54
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Picture was lifted from merosansar dot com dot np
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SHIV
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Posted on 09-26-05 7:13
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Nepe, You are a master of taking things out of context and try to connect them!!. I am sure you know what spaghetti means. Now murari raj is in thousands??? I hope you are not trying to make this guy a hero for your own personal reasons or you are looking for an execuse to follow a guy who might have "connections" I hope I am wrong. I think you are a man of principles (I like to believe that) and there might be a reason that you have seen in this guy (other than personal) that makes this guy a "hero" for you!.Why you are trying to make this "opportunist" your hero is beyond me and I am not going to dwell on it either. You can choose your own "role-models" on your liking, I have nothing against it. I have no reason to cook "roti" against anyone even you ;-) however I cannot just watch when an "opportunist" is being made a "hero" who clearly lacks moral values and ethics. I want you to know that I am not a royalist nor belong to any party or have any influence in Nepal. Unlike you who have political connections and have political ambitions (I might be wrong, however looking at some of your postings it is hard to say that you lack political ambition, which is a good thing) I have neither. The only difference between me and you is that you speak for someone (party you belong to or affiliated with) but I speak for myself, you and your affiliates can make MRS your hero and wish you to be the best follower he ever had ;-)
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Nepe
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Posted on 09-27-05 3:33
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Shiv, You sound relatively decent. So I am tempted to have a conversation with you. However, before I reply to your specific queries/comments, I would like to tell you very frankly that I think your and my perceptions regarding yardstick of moral values and ethics, what is important and what is not, what makes a difference and what does not, how important it is to be careful, accurate and responsible when we judge others etc differ a lot. So I am not sure if we can have a meaningful conversation on political topics when our values and style of thinking do not match. In any case, welcome to Sajha (supposing you are a silent reader and not some old poster) and hope to have more conversation where we can understand each other better. Nepe *** *** *** *** *** To continue with my reservation regarding Murari-jee's speech at NY rally, particularly it's failure to identify with Citizen's movement's grievance with political parties' frailty and indecisiveness regarding democratic republic, here is Kantipur's report on Kirtipur rally of Citizen's movement with my highlights to highlight my point to Murari-jee. खुट्टा नकमाऊ नेताहरू कान्तिपुर संवाददाता कीर्तिपुर, असोज १० - नागरिक समाजका अगुवाहरूले लोकतन्त्र स्थापनाको आन्दोलनमा खुट्टा नकमाउन र सम्झौतापरस्त प्रवृत्ति त्याग्न दलका नेतालाई आग्रह गरेका छन् । अन्तर्राष्ट्रिय समुदायबाट बहिष्कृत सत्ता रहिरहनुले राष्ट्रिय अस्मिताकै क्षति हुने पनि उनीहरूले औंल्याएका छन् । 'नेताहरूले एउटा आँखा जनतातिर र अर्को दरबारतिर गर्ने प्रवृत्ति त्यागून्,' सोमबार यहाँको विशाल नागरिक सभामा डा. देवेन्द्रराज पाण्डेले भन्नुभयो- 'जनता गणतन्त्रको दिशामा अघि बढिसके, दलहरू आन्दोलनका नाममा शिथिल कार्यक्रम लिएर बसेका छन् ।' दल र राजाबीचको सम्झौताले जनतालाई सधैं धोका भएको उल्लेख गर्दै उहाँले लोकतन्त्रमा त्यसो हुन नपाउने बताउनुभयो । 'प्रजातन्त्रमा जुनसुकै बेला राजा र दलबीच सम्झौता भयो,' उहाँले भन्नुभयो- 'लोकतन्त्र प्रजातन्त्रभन्दा शब्दमा मात्र फरक होइन ।' जनतालाई थाहै नदिई तीन वर्षदेखि राज्यको ढुकुटी खर्च भइरहेकोमा पाण्डेले आपत्ति जनाउनुभयो । 'जनताको अनुमतिबिना राज्यको ढुकुटी खर्च गर्ने अधिकार कसैलाई छैन,' उहाँले भन्नुभयो- 'राजाबाट आफ्नो हात जगन्नाथ भइरहेको छ ।' मानव अधिकारवादी नेता कृष्ण पहाडीले आफूहरू अहिंसात्मक आन्दोलनमा परालको खुट्टा लिएर नआएको उल्लेख गर्दै दलहरूलाई पनि फलामे खुट्टा बनाउन सुझाव दिनुभयो । विदेशी पैसाले आन्दोलन गरेको भन्नेहरूले त्यसको प्रमाण जुटाउन चेतावनी दिँदै उहाँले भन्नुभयो- 'नेपाली पैसाको खोलो बगाएर विदेशी बैंकमा जम्मा गर्नेको नाम सार्वजनिक गर्नुपर्छ ।' स्वदेशी पैसाले विदेशी बैंक भर्नेहरूले जनतालाई आक्षेप लगाउन पाइँदैन भन्दै उहाँले राजाबाट जनतालाई सुमसुम्याएर अभिव्यक्ति स्वतन्त्रताको घाँटी रेट्ने कार्य भइरहेकोप्रति सचेत रहन आह्वान गर्नुभयो । उहाँले राजाको सत्ता अन्तर्राष्ट्रियस्तरमा बदनाम भइसकेको बताउनुभयो । अमेरिकी राष्ट्रपतिले न्युयोर्कमा राष्ट्रसंघीय महासभाका सहभागी राष्ट्र/सरकार प्रमुखहरूलाई दिने चियापानमा नबोलाउने संसारका एघार राष्ट्रका तानाशाहको सूचीमा नेपाललाई पनि पारिएकाले राजाको भ्रमण नभएको जानकारी दिने डा. तुलसी गिरीको भनाइ पहाडीले उद्धृत गर्नुभयो । 'यसरी अन्तर्राष्ट्रिय जगत्बाट समेत बहिष्कृत सत्ता धेरै दिन रहिरहनु राष्ट्रिय अस्मिताका लागि खतरनाक हुन्छ,' उहाँले भन्नुभयो । उहाँले नागरिक र राजनीतिक समाजको शान्तिपूर्ण कार्यक्रममा दमन नगर्न सुरक्षाकर्मीलाई सचेत तुल्याउनुभयो । 'पत्रकार, प्राध्यापक, इन्जिनियर, वकिल, नागरिक समाज र बुद्धिजीवीलाई दमन गरे दुनियाँले सुरक्षाकर्मीलाई भाडाको घोषणा गर्नेछन्,' उहाँले भन्नुभयो ।
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प्राध्यापक कृष्ण खनालले आधा शताब्दी लामो इतिहासबाट राजतन्त्र र प्रजातन्त्र सँगसँगै जान नसक्ने पुष्टि भइसकेकाले जनताले कहिल्यै गुमाउनुनपर्ने लोकतन्त्र खोजिरहेको बताउनुभयो । 'राजतन्त्र र प्रजातन्त्र सँगै जान सक्दैन, एकमात्र विकल्प रोज्न सकिन्छ,' उहाँले भन्नुभयो- 'त्यो हो लोकतन्त्र ।' राजाको नेतृत्वमा लोकतन्त्र नआउने उल्लेख गर्दै उहाँले निमित्तहरूप्रति होइन स्रोतप्रति आक्रामक हुन आह्वान गर्नुभयो । नागरिक आन्दोलन धेरै अघि बढिसक्दा पनि दलहरूले त्यसलाई पछ्याउन नसकेकोमा उहाँले चिन्ता व्यक्त गर्नुभयो । राजा स्वयंले संवैधानिक राजतन्त्र चाहिन्न भनिसकेको उल्लेख गर्दै उहाँले भन्नुभयो- 'दलहरूले फेरि सम्झौता गर्लान् भन्नेमा हामीलाई चिन्ता छ ।' 'हामी अझ एक कदम अघि जाँदा त राजाले पनि संविधानसभा मान्लान्,' उहाँले भन्नुभयो- 'त्यतिबेला हामीलाई त्यो स्वीकार्य छैन, लोकतन्त्रपछि नै जनताले त्यसको निर्वाचन गर्नेछन् ।' एकपछि अर्को गर्दै राजा अन्तिम घडीमा पुगेको उहाँको दाबी थियो । प्रजातन्त्र अपूर्ण हुनुमा 'अधकल्चो' सम्झौता गर्ने दलहरू पनि दोषी रहेको उल्लेख गर्दै महिला अधिकारकर्मी मुक्ता श्रेष्ठले त्यसको खबरदारी गर्नुभयो । 'अबको संविधान राजाले च्यातचुत पार्न नसक्ने हुनुपर्छ,' उहाँले भन्नुभयो- 'जनताको प्रतिनिधिले चुनेको संविधानसभाले बनाएको संविधानमा मात्र त्यसो हुन सक्दैन ।' जनताको मन जित्ने मात्र राजा हुनसक्ने शास्त्रीय कथन उल्लेख गर्दै भिक्षु आनन्दले जनइच्छाबिनाको सत्ता अस्वीकार गर्न आह्वान गर्नुभयो । 'जनताले चुनेको जननायक मात्र राजा हो,' उहाँले भन्नुभयो- 'हामीकहाँ त्यस्तो छैन, मध्ययुगीन निरंकुश सामन्ती शासन छिटोभन्दा छिटो अन्त हुनुपर्छ ।' हजारौंको उपस्थिति रहेको नागरिक सभामा सर्वनाम नाट्य समूहले 'पर्खाल' सडक नाटक प्रस्तुत गरेको थियो भने चर्चित कवि अर्जुन पराजुली, स्नेह सायमी, विमल निभा, दामोदर रेग्मी, गोविन्द वर्तमान, इन्दिरा दाहाललगायतका कविहरूले चोटिलो लोकतान्त्रिक कविता सुनाएका थिए ।
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Nepe
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Posted on 09-27-05 3:35
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नाटकमा बुख्याँचाबाट आजित नागरिकले हातेमालो गरी त्यसलाई पछार्दा सहभागीहरूले यति धेरै ताली गुन्जाए कि, मानौं निरंकुशता ढल्यो । रामेश र रायनबाट 'आऊ मिलाऊ यी हाम्रा हातहरू' भन्ने गीतबाट सुरु भएको कार्यक्रममा देउडा गायक नन्दकृष्ण जोशीले 'झ्याम्म-झ्याम्म' भाकाको प्यारोडी गाउँदा कीर्तिपुर नै जागेको थियो । सबैले गाएका थिए, स्थानीयवासीले छत र बार्दलीबाट समेत ताली बजाएका थिए । गायक मोहन दुवालसहितको टोलीले 'आइज गोली आइज, पुच्छर उचालेर आइज' गीतलाई नेपाल भाकामा गाउँदा कीर्तिपुरवासीले आफ्नो गौरवशाली इतिहासको स्मरण गरे । 'हामीले त २०३६ सालमै लोकतन्त्रको पक्षमा शतप्रतिशत मत खसालेका थियौं,' समाजसेवी शिवशरण महर्जनले भन्नुभयो । २०४६ सालको आन्दोलनका क्रममा कीर्तिपुरमै सहादत प्राप्त गरेका लहनबहादुर महर्जन, राजेन्द्र महर्जन र राजमान मालीका परिवारलाई मञ्चमा बोलाउँदा सहभागीहरू निकै भावुक भएका देखिन्थे । कार्यक्रममा लोकतान्त्रिक चलचित्रकर्मी मञ्चले 'नेपाली लोकतान्त्रिक आन्दोलन' को शुभमुहुर्त गरेको थियो । नागरिक शक्ति लम्सालले 'लोकतन्त्र' भनेर निर्देशन गर्दा सहभागीले जिन्दावाद भनेका थिए । नागरिक समाजका अगुवा डा. पाण्डेले क्यामेराको स्विच अन गर्दा मानव अधिकारकर्मी पहाडीले क्ल्याप गर्नुभएको थियो । मञ्चले जारी आन्दोलनलाई पर्दामा उतार्न विरोध कार्यक्रमहरूको निरन्तर छायांकन गर्दै आएको छ । ____
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Posted on 09-27-05 5:27
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Nepe, Thank you for your welcome. However I am not new to Sajha and have many aliases and have had few differences with you in the past. Shhh... I change my alias once my identity is revealed for no apparent reason other than I can critique my friends without making them hostile when I see them at get-togethers and parties. We (Nepal) still have a long way to go to not let our differences affect personal relationships.. > You sound relatively decent. Thank you.. Apparently you have a "yard stick" to measure my "decency" and I have a free judgmental "stick" to judge who lacks morality and ethics. You use your pre-defined ideology and political motivation to make someone a "hero" however in my humble opinion you need to "get out of the box" once in a while and observe before "jumping in". Again it does not concern me that MRS is using the Nepali in US to pursue his personal goals, even it is unethical the way he is doing it, however what bothers me is people like you who are trying to make "hero" out of him. Hence my 2 cents if it is worth anything. As a closing statement: I have already said what I had to say about this unethical guy and have nothing more to add and hence do not wish to participate in this thread any longer. I am sure I will interact with you (Nepe) in some other discussions.
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