The following Press Release was received in the sajha email. It is being posted for general info.

When public hear "Cease Fire", that gives a next level a fear on ceasefire
closing day.

As someone here in this forum, who constantly call himself anti-Maoist but,
does not waste second to defend them as if a hard core Maoist, said
"Maoist Pravab is decreasing". Here is a proof:

"Schoolboy killed in bomb explosion; 2 Maoists gunned down

KATHMANDU, Nov 6 - A schoolboy was killed when a bomb planted by Maoists at the premises of school went off in Rukum district on Saturday..."

It is a real proof of increase in Maoist Pravab.

GP

What Deuba spoke may not please the bahuns and Bahuns who support Maoists activities. But that's the bitter truth. Sometimes Deuba has guts to talk that way. About Election, indeed all the party should agree to go for election no matter what's the situation without fearing of deaths. The so called greatest democracy of USA can wait weeks and weks to decide who won the President post... why not Nepal.... conduct the elections wherever possible, no matter how many phases it would take. If the political parties truely believe in Democracy, they must do so. Otherwise, they are indeed looking for cheap popularity and power, as Ranabhat says.


We all have made mistakes: PM Deuba

Prime Minister Sher Bahadur Deuba has said that political parties and their leadership have made mistakes in the past 14 years in the course of constitutional and political exercise.


Addressing a seminar on "Political Development and Constitutional Exercise in Nepal" on the eve of the Constitution Day, the premier said power games played by major political parties was mainly responsible for the acute political instability in the country.

Referring to frequent changes in the governments in the post-1990 period, the Prime Minister said the tendency to rock the governments and change prime ministers frequently had also contributed to the present constitutional impasse.

He also blamed the Maoists of `using' dalits, ethnic and indigenous communities in the name of 'revolution.' "The Maoists -whose 80 percent leadership belongs to Bahun community-claim to have been championing the cause of dalits and janajatis," said Deuba. He also alleged that the Maoists were not sincere towards their own 40-point demands. "All they want is interim government and the constituent assembly," he said.

Prime Minister Deuba said women, children and indigenous communities now had more say in bureaucracy and decision making under the present constitution. "We are moving towards an inclusive society," he added. "Democracy is a self-correcting system. We can resolve all the problems being faced by the country in a non-violent and democratic way," he added.

The premier blamed major political parties of not getting ready to go for elections. "You talk of saving democracy but fear from going to elections. How can this be justified?" asked the premier. "When other people are dying, why should not we?" he asked.

Addressing the meet, Speaker of the dissolved House of Representatives, Taranath Ranabhat, said it was pity that the governance in the country was being run through decree and ordinances. "Our constitution doesn't visualize a situation when governments are run without parliament. But in a strange way, we are running governments under Article 127 of the constitution for over two years now," he said.

The Speaker said it was wrong to blame the present constitution to conceal what he said 'our own mistakes.' "Sort of competition is going on for cheap popularity and to show off oneself as revolutionary by blaming the present constitution," said Ranabhat. "If we are talking of the rule of law, there can't be a better document than this," he added.

Saying that weak and hungry people could not sustain national integrity, Speaker Ranabhat said the King and political leadership should also understand this reality. "Are the King and responsible political parties ready in order to end the 'crisis of confidence'?" he asked. He insisted that through appropriate amendments, the constitution of the kingdom of Nepal, 1990, was capable to resolve the country's problems including Maoist insurgency.

Noted constitutional expert and chairman of Nepal Law Society, Kusum Shrestha, said the present constitution was a meeting point of democracy and nationalism. "The leaders should think about how to protect nationality and democracy in a strategically-situated country like Nepal," he advised.

Premier Deuba, who looked in a relaxed mood, arrived this morning to inaugurate the conference amid reports that he was spending a family holiday at a resort- hotel at the outskirts of Kathmandu. He also interacted with lawyers, journalists and academics for a while after the inaugural session was over.nepalnews.com by Nov 07 04

Well Mr. Prem after reading your posting, I guess I wont be wrong If I say you are either Rana or Shah or Camcha of Rana/Shah... who have always enjoyed sucking blood of poor nepalese... because if you were from minority then you would know minority has more points to agree with maoist than bahuns....

Well I am not a pro-maoist but I am definately anti-monarch... I guess we dont owe any thing to Rana/Sahs so that we have to give them our hard earned money and pray to them as if they are god......

Communist republic is not a solution but all praty-democratic republic is definitely a solution for nepal....

Why should we pay taxes for the luxury of those people who have done nothing for us, why should we pray them as a god.. when they have not even a single character than puts them above normal human... actually they are more worthless than a normal human.. they can not do any thing in life other than sucking our poor nepali blood....

Sigh, unfortunately your guess is wrong. Don't be always too confident on what you think.

Well, then I am sorry for guessing it wrong.But could you put some light on the fact that what made you point finger towards bahun for maoist problem.

My view is I know the war is being head by bahun but it became stronger only due to minority ethnic groups... and they have all just reason to fight for freedom.... just imagine till date how we torture people from lower caste.... in villages even in cities we dont let them go to temple we dont touch them.... is this the way human should be treated.

It was this partiality in our social structure which maoist exploited to grow their army, and we gave them the chance to do so by creating these partialities...

If we really want to end this war for all and for ever, we should end these social and economic partialities... other wise we end this war for today by killing or capturing maoist leader now... but the head will again rise in future .... if you go on cutting all the heads that rises ... then nepal will be either the country or dead or country of living deads..

I still remember in one nepali poem or essay they say nepali are innocent like cow, I think that is so true... just put yourself in place of those poor souls in western village they survived so long tolerating all those... and now some ruthless fanatic communist leader is exploiting them more.... my heart crys with tears of blood, thinking of how they are being exploited and tortured by RNA and Maoist in name of war......

Haddi nabhayeko Jibro jataA LATARENI hunchha, bhai.

GP ji,

I used the adjective khusket, but accompanied with the interpretation as 'one who is unable to make distinction between different things'. So it was not a name calling. It was a characterization.

By saying I was defending the Maoists, you presented one more example of your 'inability to make distinction between different things'.

Defending the Maoists and defending the facts about the Maoists are not the same thing. It is the same thing only to a khusket.

This was in case I was defending the facts about the Maoists. However, I was not even doing that.

Unlike you, I do not know exact facts and figures about the Maoists. However, if you ask me, I think, based on all the indications, their physical strength is increasing day by day ever since they launched their war because of lack of a competitor with progressive agendas (a good old Congressi Ram Chandra Poudel was saying something in this effect recently !). However, the emergence and vocal expression of pro-democratic republican civil society and youth which has by its own virtue a moral superiority over them has been a serious challenge to whatever legitimacy they had. And as I emphasized earlier, strengthening this new force is the only way to defeat the Maoists. All other options are self-defeating.

I do not expect you to understand this given the limitation of thinking you have shown. So don't feel forced to reply. I will be perfectly fine if you keep me calling a Maoist supporter. It would have been an insult to me, had it been from an ordinary person. But from you, it is an honor.

Besides, you have compensated it by calling me a good poet. It is another fact that I can prove that I am not a good poet (This is with a little sarcasm at myself. I am just coming from DC participating in a poetry competition but failing to bag any of three awards and that among just eleven competitors !)

I am a little bit tired. I will reply to Ashu sometime tomorrow. Good night !

It was wonderful to read Prem_dai's quote
"Haddi nabhayeko Jibro jataA LATARENI hunchha, bhai"

just in front of Nepe ji's clarification. Should I need to add anything else. Nope. Period.

Let readers decide it.

Regarding being good Poet and not getting a prize. In 1994, when I purchased
a notebook from Singapore it costs US$2000. and it had a speed of 20Mhz
and post 2000 year, I purchased another notebook that was much cheaper
and that had speed of 1000Mhz. Was my earlier computer bad? No. it was
good at that time and the later one is good at this time. Does good mean,
I said its absolutely good? or relatively good? I talked things in the context of
Sajha.com's poets, because there are so many ammature poets and here,
I personally thought you are a good poet here in our Sajha.com community.
I never said that you are a professional poet. "Professional", I meant those
who make their "jibika--living--" with poems. I don't think I said that you are
good in that category.

GP

It was wonderful to read Prem_dai's quote
"Haddi nabhayeko Jibro jataA LATARENI hunchha, bhai"

just in front of Nepe ji's clarification. Should I need to add anything else. Nope. Period.

Let readers decide it.

Regarding being good Poet and not getting a prize. In 1994, when I purchased
a notebook from Singapore it costs US$2000. and it had a speed of 20Mhz
and post 2000 year, I purchased another notebook that was much cheaper
and that had speed of 1000Mhz. Was my earlier computer bad? No. it was
good at that time and the later one is good at this time. Does good mean,
I said its absolutely good? or relatively good? I talked things in the context of
Sajha.com's poets, because there are so many ammature poets and here,
I personally thought you are a good poet here in our Sajha.com community.
I never said that you are a professional poet. "Professional", I meant those
who make their "jibika--living--" with poems. I don't think I said that you are
good in that category. So, you are inable to make distinction between these two different things/contexts. So, _________________

GP

GP ji,

As per your wish, this reader has decided, and the verdict is: you are one confused reactionary dimwit who doesn't know that you make a great clown. No one, including me, can match your comic genius, all hail, and what makes you truly hilarious is your obliviousness of the fact! Could you please scribble one of your unending, rage-filled, and perfectly logical responses for me, please? I could use some laughter right now kya, what with that son of a Bush winning and all. Come to think of it, with your love for proclaiming fatwas, have you considered joining the Taliban or their right wing cousins in the GOP? I'm sure you'd fit right in.

For amusement only..

Acoording to GP's doctrine, this gentleman with Nepali cap must be a Maoist.

See next picture for proof !

Look, he is selling FIVE books all about the Maoists !!!!

And on the monarch just two books, that too in not a very positive light.

(Pictures taken at the Dashain Tihar Mela organized by ANS in Virginia recently)

Nepe sir,

that is not in mine doctrine, I have not given any doctrine here. Thats your
interpretation and thats OK for me as long as you can digest and enjoy yourself.
Should we get permission for writing anything here in Sajha.com, because it
looks like so. If not, then, don't try to twist things if you are deliberately trying it.
If its not deliberate, thats your way, then, I have nothing to add, and only thing
I can say is that I feel very sorry for that situation on you.

Regards.
GP

Well, its good that these books are a kind of documentation good for
historians in future and good for peoples like Nepe ji who are so obsessed
with -vitism.

I am waiting for your new words. Pleeeeeeeease.

GP

I have been a quite reader of this thread, and i have been enjoying reading these great posts by great Posters. I also happen to notice some quotes on these posts which caught my attention, which obviously are great quotes , but i decided to trun it into "halarious" quote..so, if you think you will be offended by my humor, please do not read it, because this was written in very good intentions, just to be funny, not to hurt any person's character..:)

Poster said:that is not in mine doctrine.
--you are right GP, ur doctrine is to "hawa taal ma bolne"

Poster said:It would have been an insult to me, had it been from an ordinary person. But from you, it is an honor.
--ko bhanda ko dherai "murkha"? timi ki ma??

Poster said:So I will leave it to the readers to decide for themselves how PATHETIC my criticism and inquiry were.
-- what is Pathetic, this statement made about maoists " And that loss is continually increasing- to our great relief. " or this statement " their physical strength is increasing day by day" and both stated by Nepe. SO yes, i Think your Pathetic. I am a reader, by the way :)


Poster said: Even as a scientist who is presumably exposed to a plurality of conflicting ideas
---aah, so NEpe is a junga-dari bha ko scientist, pahile foto heriyo, abu i know what he does, now Ashu can you be kind enough to reveal his name too??

Poster said:These are so elementary things, GP ji. And I am surprised that a Doctor of Philosophy does not get it. Okay, let's leave the Ph.D.
---oho, philosopher raihecha, dammn i get to know so many things by reading these political threads.. I also, (only me) consider my self a philosopher, a naive one, and i am very much influenced by "Kantanism"..so allow me to do a pleasure of giving all of you a short lesson on what "Kant", thought would allow a universal peace.

Universal peace can only be achieved or assrued by a goverment , which puts all the states together, and which is backed by the "Greater Power", which garuntees the observance of its laws and treaties by all the possible means of "FORCED ACT",in a plus point, he also thought this was only an "idea" which would never be possible.

Poster said:Communist republic is not a solution but all praty-democratic republic is definitely a solution for nepal...
--LOL! isnt that what we have right now ?

Poster said:what Deuba spoke may not please the bahuns and Bahuns who support Maoists activities
--haha, maobadi le sarkar chalainane, multi party system bhai ni, baun nai head hune ho, why should bahuns be worried about what deuba said..

fOR THOSE WHO LOVE FACTS ABOUT MAOISTS:

FROM KOL/NEPALNEWS.COM
Explosion at EPF office at Sundhara
There has been an explosion at the under-construction building of the state-owned 'Karmachari Sanchaya Kosh' (Employees Provident Fund -EPF) at Sundhara, in the capital Kathmandu, Tuesday afternoon.

Ashu,

It is interesting to see how your argument changes as it progresses. You flip-flop faster than Kerry has managed to do.

This single thread is enough to illustrate that. First you came here to deny that you have never said the things I said you said. Then you changed your position and said, yes you had posted that humor piece in Sajha. Next, you boasted that this time around you have dared to take on the King. When I challenged you to show exactly how, you said, Nah I'm not gonna tell ya. Then you said Okay go find the last page of Kantipur Daily of certain date and there I should find the proof of the pudding and a witness as well. Now you are asking to let youself remain obscure and unchallanged, you have objection to this one-man committee.

When you are weak, you have objection to this one-man committee. When you thought you were strong you defended yourself bringing evidences from everywhere very enthusiastically. Go read the thread 'I want my NTV'. You were so disparate to prove to me, this one-man committee then and now, that you have guts to take on the palace.

I have not found you showing political ambitions like that of John Kerry. But that does not mean we can not learn a thing or two from his life. No ?

If you are with me on this, then the most important thing relevant to some of your arguments here is that a large number of professional scientists were among those who did not vote for Kerry for political reasons. These scientists who are supposed to have "exposed to a plurality of conflicting ideas" did not find Kerry's PLURALITY OF CONFLICTING IDEAS fine, much less rewardable !! This much on this.

However, Ashu, I want to reiterate that I have not taken your obscurity or rather your expressed desire to remain obscure in the matter related to the monarchy in a negative light. These are very positive signs to me. My prediction that someday you are going to be a hardcore republicans like myself actually is based on your flexibility as indicated by these obscurities.

My occasional challanging you is actually testing where a potential republican is in the process of becoming one. You might not find it pleasant to yourself, but to me, a self-styled pro-republican cyber activist, this job is a part of my duties- making small small contributions to a great cause. Bear with me, sir.

************

Confused,

It is good to see your interest in the debating points going on here. Otherwise I have seen you often confusing Sajha as a toilet to piss dirty words. Sorry, could not resist to take this opportunity to remind you that you should not piss on your dinner plate. I hope you will not be offended by this and get distracted. As I said I appreciate your decent participation in the discussion.

You wrote:
...what is Pathetic, this statement made about maoists " And that loss is continually increasing- to our great relief. " or this statement " their physical strength is increasing day by day" and both stated by Nepe. SO yes, i Think your Pathetic.

Now, allow me to clear your confusion. Actually there is no confusion. Rather, there is a refusal on your part to look at the realities on the ground. Yes, you are right these two opposing things are happening at the same time on the ground of Nepal.

Yes the visible emergence of the pro-democratic civil society and the youth is a loss to the strength of the Maoists as I explained earlier. However, it has not reached to the desired level at which things like, let's say, massive defection of the Maoist cadres to the democratic side shall take place. This time will come, however. And you will see only a handful of war criminals and silly leaders will remain on the totalitarian side and as I said earlier they will be reduced at most (that in case they continue their guerrilla warfare) to a nuisance that we can live with.

Nepe sir, You wrote:

"Yes the visible emergence of the pro-democratic civil society and the youth is a loss to the strength of the Maoists as I explained earlier. However, it has not reached to the desired level at which things like, let's say, massive defection of the Maoist cadres to the democratic side shall take place. This time will come, however. And you will see only a handful of war criminals and silly leaders will remain on the totalitarian side and as I said earlier they will be reduced at most (that in case they continue their guerrilla warfare) to a nuisance that we can live with."

I am very happy to read this paragraph. This is what I was predicting all the time.
It will need a few more years and my prediction of that happening is around 2009
-2010.

GP

Nepe, i think you are " confused" now, i am not taking any interest on this thread, rather just passing my time reading thru it, and having fun..:)

on the other hand, just like you find my postings and my words haude and "Dirty", i find your political points "worthless", kam nalagne, nachaine, and dung dung ganaune..but i try to keep my "hands" to my self most of the times and just sit their and laugh at ur dumb points and predictions..

on a personal note, i am not offened at all, instead i want to thank you for letting me tell you how i feel about "dirty" political postings bhanera..

Correction:
on a personal note, i am not offened at all, instead i want to thank you for giving me an oppurtunity to tell you how i feel about YOUR "dirty" political postings