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mahakaal
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Posted on 09-20-04 11:19
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ok jsut posting a new thread. there is a mentality in nepal that people think a foreign degree from us,uk,aus or basically is better then the nepalese degree,similar to people having a mentality about science commerce and arts. i have always wondered why is a foreign degree so much highly rated for professional as well as social purpose.wherever you study be it nepal or be it bhutan or aus ,you have to work hard to get a degree and whatever they teach you , say for example in economics in bhutan ,they teach the same to you in aus as well as us of a.say for example( i dont know about science hai.........) the theory of relativity is same all over the world. now why do people go to this foriegn lands to learn many of the subjects that are easily available in our country.is it really for the "degree" or is the degree a secondary matter? well it is understandable for people to go abroad for some very specailized subjects like rocket science or neuclear thing and also for some real high education but for ssubjects that are available in our universities which are as good as any university's program. also for example say computer science,why not india?casue i think india is as good as any place for computer science if not better but why is every body wanting to go to usa for that !!!!!!!!!!!!! so i have always wondered is it the foriegn degree people are genuinly pursuing or is it the foreign land???????
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Posted on 09-27-04 2:53
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Comparing nepali degrees with foreign degrees!!!! Can we ever compare!!! After all what you guys trying to prove.... I will not talk about libarary... but see the educational system of nepal .... the infrastructure... the facilities they provide to students.... and attitudes of the Teachers... and political instability that leaves half of the year closed almost... It Sucks!!! Garne le jahan base pani garchha!!! - well very pathetic... but do you know if you want to be cycle racer at least you need cycling track!!! I hope I answered it... and yeah we guys have bad habit of analysing things in their mind... thinking and telling all the things before looking for the facts and see with thier own eyes..
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mahakaal
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Posted on 09-27-04 3:24
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i aint no bring no nonsense.its opinions backed by facts as well.who told me,does it needs to be told that americans and russinas are good with this space things,japan is good is electronics does anybody need to tell you.f@#k that and you check it.put in your mind that america is not the whole world. and also yes i accept casue it is a simple fact that we lack technology that america has but ofocurse do you think think there is no internship in computer priogram in nepal.screw you lady take out our americanized goggles and look a round. yeah being backward in technoly to an extent dont necessarily mean lack of quality.me myself being a business student can straight up talk about business and say that the education i received is no way inferior to education an american student got or for that mattter any student of any place.i got what i need to know and then after it depends on me to implement it and make worth of it. i knwo you ll say why we backward then america if our education was of quality? it is becasue the education we get/got is not implemented in the right way and thats why we are back nothing to do with the quality of education ,its becasue of wrong people not bad education.you are american grad qualified for america try to implement your plan in somalia or ruwanda most probably you ll fail casue it is a different country and has a different style of everything.now coming to a very subjective field jsut becasue one is a american law graduate it doesnt really guarantee a success in nepal ,thats one ,a lil exceptional, example.casue not only the constituion but the style and pratice nad culture works differently. jumra thing huh there i copy and paste your own writing: """"""""""""Nepalese don't have time to take a weekend break in here 'cause they work on weekends too .....they don't have time to hangout in New road whole day..... And We don't have "JUMRAS" here like u, we take shower every day hahahahah!""""""""""""""""""" this is not me who wrote it stupid americanized confused neparican.a lot of students went back after they finsihed their education good for them unlike you who cam there in the name of probaly educationa and stayed there and say i am a nepali and keep on yapppppping and denouncing nepal all the time.freaking bulll sheeeeeeeeeet.
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mahakaal
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Posted on 09-27-04 3:28
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looked at it analysed it back it with fact and i talk.you gottttttta keep in your mind rocket science is not the only subject and education where evr you get is as good all depends on implimenting it or not.education aint faulty nowhere its jsut the execution or the lack of it.
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Posted on 09-27-04 6:14
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using F words and foul language only proves the defeated mentality.... kids
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Posted on 09-27-04 6:45
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Now, it is really going too far. I don't have time to read this thread anymore. Sweetipie is on some kind of sugar high, calling herself the only one defending Foreigh Degree. This is not some kind of war between Nepali Degree or Foreign Degree. Wish that Nepali Degree can be better than Foreign Degree soon, and all of us will be Winners. Putting Nepali Degree down is not going to make us (with foreign degrees) any worse. OK?
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Bedrock
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Posted on 09-27-04 6:47
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Putting Nepali Degree down is not going to make us (with foreign degrees) any worse. OK? I meant " any better"
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Posted on 09-27-04 11:48
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HMMMM..... Mahakal is really pissed at me! Using F word! Grow up bro.. this is the debate, u don't have to get personal. Do one or two classroom discussions okay! Is this thread even worth to be discussed now?? I strongly disagree with u and u with me so we both have points. If I am challenging u then u better come up with good reasons than your curses! Let's think Mahakal, I have told u over and over again.....it's not that nepalese don't have ability but they lack resources, experienced teacher, lack of government funding for research...... after all this yes u can work in KTM with your degree but with US degree u can work anywhere..there's no doubt about it!What do u mean by" education implemented right way "mean? And" it's because of wrong people not bad education? "WHAT???? which people? I dont' understand your logic!! Any american degree graduate and work in ruwanda or somalia my dear....... yeah each country has a different system but business majors also learn to divert accordingly! I am telling u to just get to the point..... stop fighting about jumra topic that I didn't started okay buddy!Look at the thread carefully to see who actually started it(it's not u though)! It's hard to chew the truth but it's the truth about nepal's education system! yes, u are right "rameshbabu", moneyminded has nothing to offer but to talk trash about me! Who cares yaar..... let them say it.... they are intimidated by me ( a woman)haha! "Bedrock" isn't this a thread to discuss about the comparision.....if u can't handle it then don't bother to come here. I know I am not putting the nepali degree lower but this is about comparision and there is vast difference....some of u dont' understand at all... I am obliged to prove my point again and again! Prove the points to me instead of putting somebody down who is the only one fighting against u all yaar! GET REAL!!
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Bedrock
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Posted on 09-27-04 11:54
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Yes, I understand its a discussion, but you are getting personal and bringing in things outside of the topic. Go back and read all your posting. I have already said it IMO foreign degree is better with few exceptions.
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mahakaal
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Posted on 09-27-04 4:02
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ofcourse it pisses off any nepali when one comes over and says all nepalis have jumra and you are clean and take bath daily unlike us.i know what this thread is about and yeah i used the f word cause i saw u boasting about your americaninzed way.and intimidated thing "again" fk that. no doubt a woman can intimidate but not with a big nonsense perspective.like here,you,you aint intimidating me or anything cause i completely disagree with your "my way or highway" perspective .you can work anywhere in the world with given the opportunity with education/training you receive anywhere .everything and with any subject you have to learn to divert yeah ,not only business majors .say a engineer of nepal will take time if he has to design or build a empire state building or a twin tower ,but given the time and his "creative capacity" heý ll do it cause that building was not built in any way against the rules/theories of engineering and engineer of any country knows what those are. the thing i meant and i think you just pretending not to understand is for your questions that you indirectly ask why nepal is backward if nepalese are qualified ?and what makes you think that the people from underdeveloped country cant work in a developed one ?i have always maintained that yeah we cant compare ourselves to the us in some real specialized subjects and thatýs a fact .i cant say we can compete with america when it comes to inventions and discoveries in the field of science and technology ,i accept that and its not being defeated by you cause its the truth ,a simple one indeed. how many times you say the inexperienced teachers ,to be experienced do you have to be an old old man with 60 yrs of teaching experience or smth .you cant just walk in any university and start teaching if you are not qualified or experienced .yeah its also true that we lack technology i know that but here again i think , you talking about computers .well carrying a laptop to your school and submitting your homeworks assignments and projects via that computer is not necessarily a bench mark of better education .lack of research yeah but is researches of space and nuclear stuff only researches .there are few subjects which are not available in nepali university so there is no research on that but i agree in the subjects that are available too there is not that as extensive research as an american univ does but does that make a degree you earn by learning whatever is needed to you inferior .yeah it will surely give a little minus point though. but thatýs not the end of the world. any degree earned in a third world is not good to any developed places and that is not only in America .and as i told you earlier in many countries American degree is thesame as well.you donýt just be considered qualified and better because of an american degree you carry .nepal sadly does .and thatýs what made me start this thread. people here have not even got ahead of this science arts and commerce thing ie science for 1st div ,comm for 2nd..... blah blah and there you bring an american degree it obviously gets a vau .well its different thing altogether. and jumra thing i donýt really know and saw who started it but i saw you talking big in capital letters and that is not very fly with me ,me being from Nepal .you stay in the us does not mean every Nepali carries a jumra. .GET REAL.
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Posted on 09-27-04 4:51
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If these kinds of things really pissed u off mahakal.......... and can't stay away from your "f" word then it's rather silly!! If u have good points u won't have to degrade so low to use these "f" words!! This thread is about the discussion regarding different perspective then why are u being an ass? I am putting my view and u are doing the same......if everybody would agree with the same views then why is this thread necessary in the first place?? Why a nepali who has a foreign degree can't tell the truth.....just being a nepali doesn't mean I have to be so "desbhakta" and what I am doing is stating the obvious. First of all, u cannot work in US or say some other country with Nepali degree. Yes, you definitely have to study further to get a job here! okay u agree that computer and techonological things aren't that good in Nepal but even without these modern majors.....let's say literature, business, engineering or even economics........people do tons of research on those too...not only technology. Hence, professors are wayyyy experienced hence gives u new perspectives on any subject beyond text and assingments.......u can't compare them to nepali teachers man! I am not doubting that a nepali can build an empire state building if the proper training is given and in order get the proper training he/she must study here......building a nepali house if different than building a house here.....totally modern equipments and engineering.....Mark my point..I am not saying that a third world man can't work here......he can but with a degree here....unless u are from India. Why do u think other countries don't like american degree..? u think nepal is the only one who accepts it? This is the first time I am hearing this from anybody.........okay let's say even if it's true why the hell would I go to canada or other country to work?? If majority of big countries accept it then who cares some other countries don't! How can u firmly say these things when u haven't even experienced colleges here?? I have experienced it in both countries therefore I say it for fact!!Don't just assume things! ........U can't give up your jumra issue can u? Let me clarify for the last time!! Somebody first insulted me with a jumra issue then why can't I reply them back?? Why don't u stop that guy first?? AND I AM GETTING REAL!! CHEERS!
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Posted on 09-27-04 8:29
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Posted on 09-28-04 12:45
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I logged in today thinking that I will cut off and stop more discussions since I have completely different view than of yours .but I came to read a few lines of your post m/s sweetpie and I thought I would rather write a few lines more. I didnýt read your whole post cause I didnýt want to argue more on that . This post will have nothing to do with the main point of the subject in which we were arguing cause it will never finish .but, You beech cant just stop running your mouth can you? There is a big difference in ýreplying/defending a view ý and a straight out insult. You should better know it than me as you are a neprican and your day to day language is English .well what if I say all women in America are ýsluuutsý or ýhoesý and all they like is to suck deeeck ,in your own American way of speech .now I say I am replying you for you insulted me saying me an ass .so what does this make??? Now you answer it back and I will say you trying to be an ýAmericaný or ýa true nepricaný as you said me trying to be a ýdeshbhaktaý . replying back for a personal insult donýt mean you insult the whole community or the whole tribe where your opponent or whatever comes from. I know me using the words ýsluuutý and ýhoeý is not right but here I use it like you and I am replying to youý howýs that? Is it fly with you? To me you saying we have jumra no matter whom you said and why you said is not fly as straight as that. Thatýs it beech hahahahah!. That is your own laugh that I seriously copied and pasted and sent it for you with love..
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Posted on 09-28-04 3:43
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A simple question: Why foreign degree is perceived better than Nepali degree ? Simple Answer: Because foreign degree is better than a nepali degree that's why the perception. Remember, a degree from Bihar is also a foreign degree and we do not perceive that a better degree than a nepali degree. We are just talking about those degrees that are better. Some of the posts here are so far off from the reality...either they have no idea what they are talking about or they know nothing... Saroj
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Posted on 09-28-04 3:49
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I went to Galaxy school and then came to Hong Kong my motherland. I do not go to school and it is not important to go to school. So why everybody fighting, only boring people go to school. So you all are boaring people.
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Posted on 09-28-04 10:08
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BRAVO MAHAKAL!!!!! U have officially proven u are an idiot with a brain full of "u know what"! Oh angry boy Mahakal...... U really look like a typical kaal! U better shut your mouth running like a wild dog before you start a thread!! Go to few debate class to practice kiddo! Who wants to debate with a person who has this much curses because he couldn't win!! GROW UP KID!! And yes try to spell your curses correctly if u have curse somebody okay? SAYONARA TO THIS WILD PIG!!
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Posted on 09-28-04 10:28
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I think he aint Wild Pig but Dumb Fat Pig
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Posted on 09-28-04 10:45
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A thread like this is usually started with complexes, frustrations and lots of dreams that were crushed when they stamped the "denied" stamp at the embassy.. You should just say sorry and move on rather than arguying with hurt people like this.. and then when you log off, feel good about yourself cuz someone's jelouse of you :).... Wheather Ram bahadur or Shyam bahadur believes it or not, American Degrees are far more marketable than Nepali ones. And you don't need to argue about something that is already there. If someone wants to argue that the sun is not bright that do you spend your valuable time on preacing and arguying that "murcha munushaya" or just move on and do you thing? ... Please utilize one of the precious things you have learned from your foreign language; effective time management and move on from this silly argument. You got nothing to prove. It has already been proved by many scientist, researches , studies .. and all kind of tools. Also, if you see a handicapped person you don't make fun of him/her. Same with the people with inferiority complexes and frustrations :) take it easy... Dyamn
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Posted on 09-28-04 10:46
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make that foreign degree - insted of foreign language ;) peace..
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Posted on 09-29-04 12:22
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now its getting more funnier.all right sweet pie if you think i dont know how to spell bitch then here you go,i spell it "bitch" "slut" and "whore" happy? might be typical you as well.sweet pie, sounds like a hooker's name or let me be precise a stripper's name.now that my spelling is corrected here we go;;;;; allright.as i no longer want to debate on the main point of this thread cause i know the views dont match so it will be just an elongated debate for nothing.debating ehhhh, that finished a long time back when you came out with your jumra thing.winning and losing is irrelevant point in discussion forums as this and did i lose hahaha? .debate classes hahahaha as if your life depends on this.well the bottom line is not every nepali has jumra unlike you did in nepal and you are a bitch.LOUD AND CLEAR. and yeah most of the people in sajha being from the us,i guess, i can see quite a few neprican attitude like you three dyam,sweet pie and lonely star are showing.hahaha.isnt it funny ......you mofos think you are better hahaha just becasue you are in us a and ooh yeah you guys got "visa".nobody else gets a visa hahhaha.frustated aye by not being able to come to the us a.hahaha.and on the top of that you come with a suggestion to move on casue one couldnt get a visa in an assumption here that i didnt..only you guys are the ones to get visa and you should be given the status of "rastriya bibhuti" with a big medal.hahaha this is like nahune jatha ley ray ban payo bhane price tag sitai launcha well thats like you .america ma baseko fuiiii laune jatha haru.hahahaha man this is the lowest grade of pride or a sense of achievment i have ever seen or known.that you guys have .you are cheap american baptized bast....s. it does matter you dumb butt crack ,what a ram bahadur or a shyam bahadur thinks cause it is a view. having a view is not only some tom dick or harrys entity.well for the last time i say, i never really argued on the marketabitly of an american degree then of a nepali one, i argued on the quality of it as well as i started this thread on the mentality of people having a perception of american being superior like science being superior to arts.and well it was going on fine with views/differences and you mofos come with a "i am in america" attitude and bring on stuff like jumra and visa.cheap shits. inferiority complex ,my assss, hell with that.you being in america have a superiority complex hahahah ,cheap ( if there is anything below that you know that i might not know then read thatit as that) thats the only word i can use.superior hahahaha. sweetpie lastly for you only you .you are a mouth full "thick cum".well i myself filled that thing between the double quote for you unlike u who left me to think for myself what was in the double qoute of yours.and yeah i know how to spell,beeeeeech !!!!!!!hahahaha
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Posted on 09-29-04 1:43
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I can see that this discussion is leading to nowhere... rather than showing some personal pride why not you people stick to the theme... I do agree Mahakal in one point when he said that not all the subject but we can`t compete in science and technology field.... Beside look at this guy, he is so confident with himself. I know he can do lots of difference to Nepal. A guy like this can do lots of difference, whole lots of difference. I can see energy in this guy. and yeah for being deshbhakta or not being deshbhakta does it matters.... how many of us do the things for country. Its far better if we just able to develop oneself... ourself... then it will gradually transform into the country too. And yeah as far as education goes... there is one side which the people have not dicussed yet... that is conceiving and perceiving... and I doubt all the nepalese there in US are not brilliant and neither people back in Nepal are stupid. I have this personal experience.. my friends who were dumb in thier studies ....suddenly start emailing me as they have become the intellecutal in a month or two.. As far as my opinion goes....seeing, hearing,listening and studying is not only parameter that make you wise you need to breakit down, analyse it, cook it , samash down again into fragments and then building ...these all process that goes inside the mind stands for being wise. Have you people read the novel of parijat.... I once mentioned it... and yeah there is english translated version from p. devkota . the name of novel is called Blue Memosa. Read it and prove me which standard those these literatures stands for, May be you can`t find it in american libarary. but I believe this will beat thousands of books there in it. And yeah why always our hot debate leads to insulting eachother... after doing that... do you still think that you people are intelligent. how can you be intelligent who doesn`t even know civillized way of communication
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