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 Logic Puzzles

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Posted on 08-06-06 5:32 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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There was this thread about logic puzzles a while ago here at Sajha. Needless to say, it was quite popular. The thread was also a confluence of 'great' minds of sajha, who displayed there abilities to approach problems from different view points, not necessarily the correct point of view, however.

One way to keep this thread moving is to come up with puzzles each time a puzzle is solved. And just to avoid any stress to Google Inc., I encourage people to phrase the puzzles as accurately as they can in their own words.
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Here's the one that I would like to start with.
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There are two threads, with DIFFERENT lengths and DIFFERENT diameters. The threads are NOT uniform, each thread has different diameter at different points along the thread. But if you light up the thread at any one end, it takes exactly one hour for EACH thread to finish buring from one end to the other end. You can light up any end first-- it does not matter. Now, how do I measure 45 minuties by using those threads?

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This is not a riddle, so the aim is not trick anyone in small details.
 
Posted on 08-07-06 10:16 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Khoi no one to solve my logical problem? Ali overdose bha jasto cha sajha lai.

Just repeat it for new readers

There is a 200 mile distance in which runners are allowed to carry 2 gallons of water in 2 hands, thats it. The 1 gallons of water is enough for the runner to run 25 miles. He can go a certain miles and store gallons as many times as he likes provided he has enough water to get back to the start. He can come back and get maximum of 2 gallons. So he runs a certain distance and stores gallons of water, comes back to start get more water. What is the lowest number of trips he has to make back to make the 200 mile distance?
 
Posted on 08-07-06 11:30 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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must be factorial of 16 or something like that....don't want to think too much...tauko dukhcha...
 
Posted on 08-08-06 8:44 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Ooo...didn't see that.

Is it 64? If not, then will have to think after I get off from my boring work!
 
Posted on 08-08-06 2:34 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I'm thinking like this:
Lets divid total distance(-- = 12.5 miles and each digit = 25 miles)
0--|--1--|--2--|--3--|--4--|--5--|--6--|--7--|--8
1. He needs 2 gallons of water to travell 25 miles
2. He needs 8 gallons of water to travell 50 miles
similarly, 32 for 75 miles (I'm not sure... )
If it works then our general formula will be
2(4 pow(n-1))

to reach at position 8
2(4 pow(8-1))
total distance he needs to travell to cover 200 miles and come back
2(4 pow(7)) X 25 miles
total number of round trip
(2(4 pow(7)) X 25)/200
=(4 pow(7))/4
 
Posted on 08-08-06 5:24 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Thanks for all the responses

Buddhaboy was one of the closest to the answer.

Well the number of times he has to return to the start is

N = 2^(n-1)

n= ((2 x Total Distance)/distance per gallon) - 1

so n = 8
Hence N = 128

Rationale: for every 25 miles he has to use half the number of gallons. At 150th mile he has to have 2 gallons of water to complete the distance. so 125 he has to have 4 gallons, similarly 100 : 8, 75 : 16, 50 : 32, 25 : 64 and thus 0 : 128.
 
Posted on 08-08-06 7:21 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nevermind, I don't quite agree with your answer.

I agree that the runner should have 2 full gallons of water when he is at 150th mile, but I don't agree that the number of gallons at 125th mile should be 4.

Here's why: If I carry two gallons from 125th mile to 150th mile, then I will finish one gallon just going. I will need another gallon to come back. So, if I have that interval of 25 miles, then I will have to use one gallon while going and the other gallon while coming back--this does not save me any water. So, instead, the travelling interval should be 12.5 miles NOT 25 miles. In effect, the number of gallons of water I will require at different intervals now become:
150m: 2 (2^1)
137.5m: 4 (2^2)
125m: 8 (2^3)
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25m: 2^11
12.5m: 2^12 = 4096

That means I need 4096 gallons of water at a distance of 12.5 miles from the start. I am just trying to know the lowest number of trips that I have to make to cover 200 miles, so I do NOT need not to know how many gallons I need at 0th mile (as opposed to what you have said above).
And to have 4096 gallons of water at 0th mile, I need to get back to start 4095 (4096-1) times.
So, I think the correct answer should be 4095 times.
Let me know if you do not agree.
 
Posted on 08-08-06 7:25 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Key assumption: I need water to travel, regardless of moving forward or going back to get the gallons of water.
 
Posted on 08-11-06 9:54 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Among 10 coins which look exactly alike, two are fake coins. All real coins weigh the same. Both fake coins weigh the same, but they weigh less than the real coins. You have a balance. How do you find the fake coins using a balance not more than 5 times?
 



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