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iZen
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Posted on 10-18-05 10:11
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Some say its in Tibet. Some think its in Nepal near Mustang. I have seen some places that would easily pass for the "Shangriland". Always wondered what if Shangrila really existed....... and looked like this (Wouldn't be a bad idea for a date)
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NK
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Posted on 10-20-05 12:59
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Does hell exist? Do you believe in UFO? Was the world created in seven days? Did Shiva really walked through mountains schleping dead Parvati... and the list goes on and on.
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iZen
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Posted on 10-20-05 1:10
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NK, Only questions lead to answers.A rational mind should never cease to ask questions.Otherwise we are simply accepting lies and dogmas that leads to an absolutism. If we simply accept all that was taught then we are binding ourselves in blind belief. :)
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Raybati
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Posted on 10-20-05 1:27
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Presidential retreat established in rural Maryland, U.S., by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1942 and renamed Camp David (q.v.) in 1953. RBT Ciao
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iZen
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Posted on 10-20-05 3:28
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Presidential retreat established in rural Maryland, U.S., by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1942 and renamed Camp David (q.v.) in 1953. RBT:I only live twenty minutes drive from Camp David.Now I know I am so close to Shangri-la.Thats funny...If that was the case why are Israelis and Palestanians still fighting.After all, It ain't no shangri-la?Hun.... But thanks for the info. still wondering......:)
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IndisGuise
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Posted on 10-21-05 11:10
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Izen, My take on "Nirvana" and "Shangri-La" is this ? "?Two side of the same coin" Why? Allow me to explain... Enlightenment leads to nirvana. Enlightment, which implies where a person becomes free of pain, suffering, desires and other earthly matters. What does that lead to? Yep! You said it. Indeed, a state of Nirvana. Now, what is Shangri-la? An imaginary utopia where all is bliss and where there is absolute peace blah blah blah. In essence, a paradise on earth, like highfly interpreted. Then what does both have in common. One implies a state free of pain, desire, and any earthly matters, and another; absolute peace, bliss, like a heaven on earth. How is one possible without another? Get the picture? I bet you can copulate one with another and come to the conclusion that it does not only relate to each other, but also can be used interchangeably. Damn! Too much hash I believe. A short route to both. But not me. I hate em'. Since you seem to have vowed to ask questions with a thread a day policy hehehe ;), and have stated that a rational mind have to ask question. Can I ask you one? How about having a new ID with question mark in front and behind the nick. Reminds me of this character in some old hindi flick where the guy has a question mark on the forehead. J/k mate. And yes Shangri-La is both. I mean it's an imaginary stuff man. Common. Since 1994 I have been seeing Shangri-la in Aishworya Rai. Aru ke bhanau. HAHAHAHa. there was this girl anmed Shangri-la from chabel I believe. She was not Shangri-La Shangri-la, but her name was Shangri-la. Deemag kharab! ;) As long as I am in the state of Nirvana... IndisGuise:)
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NK
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Posted on 10-21-05 11:49
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Did Deependra really kill the entire clan? Did man really land on the Moon? Was that you or somebody else at the table who ate your breakfast in the morning. Does Sitara rerally exist. Did Ashu really go to Harvard. Of course we all should ask these questions, and many more. (:0) sorry could not help. You know me, right?
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iZen
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Posted on 10-21-05 4:44
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And yes Shangri-La is both. I mean it's an imaginary stuff man. Common. Since 1994 I have been seeing Shangri-la in Aishworya Rai. Aru ke bhanau. HAHAHAHa. there was this girl anmed Shangri-la from chabel I believe. She was not Shangri-La Shangri-la, but her name was Shangri-la. The statement above was given birth by InDisguise... Your appreciation for feminist beauty/discovering shangri-la in them reminds me of a reputed indian artist named Maqbul-fida Hussein who later was to be known as Madhuri Fida Hussein. I meant M.F. Hussein:)Remember....Hum Aap ke Hain Kaun? True beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder...and shangri-la can't be an exception.The latter part was added:) The hardest part for me as you have declared my vow to challege the established belief is this.Is there an external existance in whatso ever form that can reflect itself in the form of nirvana or shangri-la? Like you I have also surrendered to one conclusion.That is shangri-la is infact our state of mind like nirvana.But then shangrila doesn't exist because nirvana is impossible before our leaving behind of our physical self.Then one can argue he/she has achieved nirvana within their lifetime i.e their presence on the planet which I find very immature.
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SITARA
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Posted on 10-21-05 4:48
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alk up a trail which vanishes into the shadows of the very mountain it follows, notice the lavendar colored grass flowers sprouting to give their own ray of color, the copper pink whiffs of clouds encircle the ice cones rising high above the horizon, blazing brick colored huts hanging defiantly on precarious ridges, follow the pebble I happen to kick over a cliff and admire the gorge which barely catch any ray of sunshine, notice the rhododendrons as they change from crimson to white like benchmarks of changing altitude, the highest rhododendrons camouflaged in the occasional snow a random icy wind brings, sit at a tea shop with its open hearth and smell of dung fuel, drink in the moment of mental emancipation. I've reached nirvana! I've reached my personal Shangrila! ~Sitara~ NK, I hope you aren't too obsessed by your own question of "Sitara's existence"! :)
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iZen
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Posted on 10-21-05 4:58
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SITARA exists...I can see her paragraphs confusing my quest.... Shangrila doesn't? Atleast not yet... Keep wondering folks:)
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lalupathey
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Posted on 10-21-05 6:08
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All Sajhabasi haru, Shangrila does exsit. If you look around the far western part of Nepal, you really see Shangrila where horizon touches the bare lands of the heaven. You better go there and feel by yourself. But do not afraid of Maosits. They are like us. Only they dislikes armies. Otherwise those places are safe. Ahem.
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Raybati
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Posted on 10-22-05 8:09
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Sitara, you do write well. Maybe I need to talk to you about writing the screen play for this independent movie project I am working on. The movie has to do with Nepal/US and Nepali's concept of what it is that they are attempting escape when they migrate to the US and can they really get away from all the struggles of life just because ther are somewhere else, perhaps in search of the Shangri La! RBT Ciao
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SITARA
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Posted on 10-22-05 8:20
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Thank you Raybati! Your project sounds incredibly interesting. Innovative too. What do you have in mind? Shoot me an email via Sajha and we'll see if I can be of some use.
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Captain Haddock
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Posted on 10-22-05 8:23
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Ofcourse it exists - I just came back from there. Roundtrip $1700 from Boston. Lots of hot chicks, golden beaches, eclectic bars, great music, meditation, monasteries, thriving arts and literature, sailing, golf, hiking, biking, bungee jumping - you name it ! Shangrilla - now only a stone's throw away from anywhere! 1800-GO-SHANGRILLA Happy Saturday - believers and unbelievers alike! :)
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iZen
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Posted on 10-22-05 8:36
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Hi SITARA and RBT, It is wonderful to see you heavyweights of sajha interested in making movies.My script is half way done at this point.SITARA,I am sure you have heard of an independent film festival organizer in DC metro named Guerilla filmProductions.John Hanshaw the director of the film production is very helpful to the foreigners who are interested in making independent flicks.Just curious RBT,are you planning to make the movie in English version or Nepali.Forget US I see a lot of oppurtunities in Nepal if movies are made that are not bollywood-ized.Bhutan is getting some market after a monk turned director started making world class movies.You know what I am talking about. Well,guys its good to see folks interested in making indeendent movies here. Isn't Sajha something? iZ
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palpali gaule
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Posted on 10-26-05 6:38
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yes....but mostly in the mind. perhaps this is the closest to a physical realization of it. simikot, humla. photo courtesy of nepalnews.
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