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I am getting tired of you and your posts. Enough is enough. Try to look at a brighter side!!
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The truth..anybody who is a fan of Baburam needs to address the concerns on this letter for me.
Protest letter handed over to Mr. Babu Ram Bhattarai |
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News by- Hari Har Sharma | From- Kathmandu | September 26, 2011 |
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Mr. Babu Ram Bhattarai a.k.a. Lal Dhoj
Dear Mr. Bhattarai,
We, Nepalese, propelled by conscience, summoned to duty by our beloved country, are gathered here in New York City to express our outrage against your visit to the UN. This is an insult not only to our people’s intelligence, but also to the conscience of the entire world.
Mr. Bhattarai, in the first place, you do not represent our beautiful country, you do not represent the great people of Nepal and you do not represent our values. Secondly, you do not deserve to stand at the podium of the world’s biggest citadel of peace. You embody violence and terror, the very antithesis of the peace on which the UN was founded and has stood for more than sixty years. You have not renounced violence. You have not surrendered your lethal weapons. Your marauding thugs-for-hire terrorize, torment and taunt the people day in and day out all over our country.
Due to your brutal assault on Nepal, for too long now, we have lived without peace, order, security and any semblance of stability. The country is reeling in utter chaos. In order to divide and conquer, you have turned Nepal into a fertile ground for ethnic conflict. We are careening towards a hellish cycle of ethnic violence and never-ending conflicts. Because of your policies and actions, a chasm of distrust and animosity has developed between our myriad ethnic groups, replacing the understanding and harmony that had developed over centuries.
You have an insatiable appetite for death and destruction. For the last fifteen years, you have been living on a daily diet of the Nepalese people’s blood and treasure. Soon after declaring yourself prime minister, you declared that “you have no magic bullets” to solve our colossal problems created by your own Maoists criminal enterprise. You had no trouble finding bullets to put through people’s heads, but you are shamelessly telling us now that you cannot solve the problems in which you played such a big part in creating.
Mr. Lal Dhoj, allow us to speak plain truth. You are one of the people who is responsible for the massacre of more than fifteen thousand people and the displacement of millions of others by driving them away from their homes and villages. Countless others have been forced to leave the country just to survive. You have destroyed billions of rupees worth of national property and hundreds of thousands of private property. Your barbarism simply saw no limit. You were also involved in the desecrations of many temples, schools and national monuments.
But, your heinous crimes did not end there. You have confiscated thousands of people’s land. You were involved in robbing banks and people throughout Nepal at gun point. You kidnapped young and underage sons and daughters of very poor and naïve parents and trained them to kill and to be killed. Thus, with violence and terror, you quickly turned our panoramic country into a gruesome killing field.
As a consequence, you have brought our scintillatingly beautiful nation to the brink of ruin. It will take generations to recover from the bloodbath and the ashes and rubble you have created. The lack and loss of people’s loved-ones and the unrelenting pain associated with it will endure for generations to come. When future generation read the catalogue of unspeakable horror and tragedy you and your thuggish friends have created in Nepal, it is bound to send a chill down their spines.
You seized power at gun point. As a result, you destroyed our toddling democracy and our precious 1990’s democratic Constitution. Since you had no belief in democracy, you did not give it a chance to take a baby step. You took advantage of a difficult period of transition to democracy. Our democracy was restored in Nepal after thirty years of hard-fought often in bitter political struggles by the people. It was largely a non-violent and peaceful revolution championed by our great leaders and statesmen. Tragically, you ended it with blazing guns and exploding grenades, creating rivers of blood down the mountains, through the valleys and on to the plains.
You won the so-called constitution assembly elections with firepower. Now you have anointed yourself as Prime Minister through muscle, money and manipulation. Your own Maoists criminal gang leader, Prachanda, has declared you to be an Indian agent. The rest of the people in Nepal have no apparent reason to suddenly trust a tyrant like you.
Dr. Death, just before you left Nepal, a devastating earthquake hit Nepal. You did not care to learn about the loss of lives and property in the country but instead left for New York in a rush to give a farcical speech on the world stage. If we needed any further proof of your moral depravity, this is it.
Now, given your appalling background and history, is it possible that you have a positive message to convey to the world? The answer is a resounding “No.” Your presence will only serve to lower Nepal’s prestige and standing in the world.
Our glorious history, our independent national identity, our mosaic cultures and the spirits of our brave people are as grand as the majestic Himalayas. We defeated the mightiest power of imperialism, and we will defeat you as well – it is only a matter of time. You may live under the illusion that you have defeated the Nepalese people. In truth, you have captured power, but not our hearts. You may occupy the center stage in Singh Durbar, but not in our heartland.
In the end, you will lose and we will win. You love power and we love our country. You believe in violence, hate and retribution. We rest our faith on peace, justice and reconciliation. You believe in a Marxist totalitarian system. We believe in democracy, human rights and peaceful process of debate and dialogue to settle differences amongst ourselves. We believe in freeing people and you believe in making slaves. You believe in making decisions for people, we allow people to make their own determinations. We have an abiding faith in a united people and a unified Nepal. You want to divide Nepal and keep our people separate from each other. We respect our fellow human countrymen’s “life, liberty and pursuit of happiness” as much as we love our own. You have proved a total disregard for these quintessential human values in the most inhuman way.
You and your goons took advantage of our innocent, naïve, gentle and peaceful people and a weak state. You destroyed not only so many precious lives but their families’ livelihood as well. There are not too many people in Nepal who were untouched by your besetting sins of violence and murder, both physically and emotionally.
You have put our country in a very difficult situation. Our people may not be articulate, but they understand and feel as much as anyone else. They are God-fearing and deeply spiritual people. They are endowed with a deep sense of right and wrong. We will right the wrong in Nepal. We will never allow you to destroy what is good about our country or let it die. And we will make certain that you will stand at the altar of justice for the monstrous crimes you have committed. We will ensure that justice will roll down the mountain like a mighty river. At long last, Nepal will finally be free from the Maoists repression and cruelty. We will make sure that democracy, peace and progress reign supreme in Nepal.
Sincerely,
Vijay K. Sigdel
Bishal Shah
Bandana Koirala
Punam Pande
Krishna Raj Pande
Kunti Thapa
Binita Nakarmi
Kuber Thapa
Kamala Prasai
James Lama
Tshering Gurung
Amrita Rana
Rupa Rana
Sirjana Thapa
Sept 24, 2011
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http://www.dcnepal.tv/press_release_english.php?nid=3671
The fan of Baburam needs to address the concerns and issues raised in this letter. WOW. What an OUTSTANDING letter!!
Thank you!
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Posted on 09-26-11 10:48
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चिनेर के गर्छौ , खुकुरी लियेर काट्न जन्छौ ? तिमी मा ठुलो चोट परेको छ तिम्रो लेखाइ बाट थाहा हुन्च तर तेसो भनेर कैले सम्म तिमी मन म घ्रिना पालेर बस्छौ ? तिम्रो मात्र हैन , लाखौं नेपाली ले दु:ख पाका छन् हजारौं ले आफ्ना मान्छे घुमाका छन् , अनी हामी खाली तेइ कुरा सम्झेर बस्ने हो भने देश् बिकास कैले हुन्च? प्रथम र दोस्रो बिश्व युद्ध हरेको जर्मनी ले अमेरिका लगयेत अरु देश् सँग रिस पालेर बसेको भए आज त्यो देश् त्यहाँ पुग्थो? जापान ले अमेरिका ले बम खसायेर तेत्रो मान्छे मारेको रिस लियेर बसेको भए आज अमेरिकी बजार जापानी समान ले कब्जा गर्थो?
मैले माओवादी को समर्थन गर्न खोजेको हैन , केबल सदै घ्रिना मन मा पलेर बस्न राम्रो हुन्न मात्र भनेको । तिमी आँफै सोच न तिमलाई अब यो साझा मा अरु ले के भन्छ , सदै आको छ तेइ कुरा भनेको छ , साझा लाई सरपेको छ , तेरो बाउ आमा मरोस भनेर अरुलाई तथनाम गाली गरेको छ , तेस बाट तिम्ले के पाउछौ ? तिम्ल्र जस्लाई(माओबादि) सरप्दै छौ तेलले त थाहा नी पाउदैन होला ।
साथी घ्रिना ले मनिष लाई मानब बाट दानब बनाउछ । धेरै मनिष हरु माओवादी को हत्या हिन्सा मा तेइ भएर लाग्रेको थिय । बेलैमा बुज मित्र धेरै ढिला नहोस्।
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Posted on 09-26-11 11:36
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The issue here is not about moving forward in life or getting over a civil war.
if Hitler became a President of the US, US wouldn't sit quiet either. Likewise, it is hard for many of us Nepalis to see Prachanda and Baburam-the cause of the civil war causing the deaths of thousands of Nepalis as leaders of Nepal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RN5fbTitSU
After seeing this video, and by the excellent questions asked by people there, it further digusts me with this man.
He has no clue what he is saying. He clearly sees himself as a "worker" of the Indian government in Nepal instead of a head of the state.
When asked, "Did you try to talk to Obama about the terrorist Tag.." He answers, diplomatically that basically Obama is too big for him to answer that and he will address that with a Joint Secretary of Political affairs??
Baburam has no idea of what being a head of state even means..and by the way, yes, he tried his best to communicate to Obama about removing the terrorist tag--but his request was TURNED DOWN..it's okay that he didnt say the things as they are..but to say,..Obama is too busy this and that..and that the issue will be addressed with the "joint secretary" just makes my country feel so less..
Since his existence is a result of murder, extortion, and terrorism, how can confidence flourish with such a henious background?
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Posted on 09-26-11 11:59
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"Sajha is a place where asylum seekers and cadres of Nepali Congress dwell. " somebody mentioned that earlier and I have a feeling thats true. I am not a Maoist but I see this guys as a potential leader who try to do something for our country. You all are too smart and that's why motherland Nepal didnt deserve you guys back home rather here in a great country of America.
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Posted on 09-26-11 12:19
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paulinididi,
I dont completely remember what he said in interview, but im sure it is not 'joint secretary'. He might have said 'Deputy secretary' , which is equivalent to 'State minister (rajya mantri)' in Nepal. Secretary/joint secretary in Nepal are equivalent to Director/Deputy Director who are bureaucrats. Im not saying he is fully following protocol in this, im just trying to put the right information.
If it is head of govt of palestine, iraq, afghanistan or any other such countries, the President would himself take some time to talk because US has a greater interest in those countries, we all know this. For head of the govts of countries like Nepal, it is obvious that president is too busy.
I hope i wont be branded as maoist for writing this :)
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Posted on 09-26-11 12:27
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facebook,
Do you know why Germans progressed? Beacuse Nazis were finsihed. If you finish Maoists in Nepal, Nepal will progress like Germany as well.
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Posted on 09-26-11 4:08
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The best quality of the people in Sajha is no one listen anyone. It is like Nepal, no one listen and no one respect other. The only problem I can see now is Babu Ram represent a communist leader and a philosophy which is completely outdated. But what if Nepal congress fight against King to throw monarcy, it is a democratic movement or not? What if Libian Rebals fight against Karnel Gaddafi and USA is supporting them, is it democartic movement or not? The people who shout in Sajha are oppertunist, if not they can't be so mad here in USA where majority Nepali voted for Maoist in election. I can't say they are asylum seekers or what but they are oppertunist and they want something doing this kind of act? Definitely, if Maoist had done crime against humanity, they should be taken to international court but what was the senario there in Nepal and who voted for Maoist? Probably, not the people who are in USA like me and you, but the general public of Nepal and general voters of Kathmandu which is the most educated place. We can blame that they are also oppertunist. So, plese don't shout here, please go and shout to the people of Gorkha and Rolpa, please shout people of Kathmandu and Lalitpur, you idiots. I am not in favor of Maoist but if you don't have choice, please let them to work, either they will be like your Congress and UML and Rajabadi. I am saying your beacuse the people who is shouting here is either from Congress, UML or Rajabadi. Regarding what if my parents or my relatives had been killed by Maoist, the answer is killing from one group and again to take revenge for that group, it is same for me. Then what is the difference between Maoist and Non Maoist? Any way, Maoist had done crime against humanity but what the Nepalese Army, your Nepali congress, your UML or your Rajabadi did to stop these crime? Why Army killed almost 8000 people in every villages of Nepal, army is not a group, it sometimes represent congress, sometime UML or sometime king? So, if Maoist want to be part of the society, let them be and help them if they want to make nation properous. There is no Maoism in this world, there is no communism, it is always a day dream, no they realize that they are dreaming and they want to be democartic like your NAPUNSAK congress, UML and Rajabadi.
This is Nepal Army now, army is not a group, it represents the group of people who leads the country.
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मकलेकान्छा मैले पैले भने जस्ताइ तिमी परिवर्तन हुने मन्छे हैनउ। एसो गर तिमी नेपाल जाउ , गएर माओवादी बिरुद्ध बन्दुक उथाउ ! बरु पे-पल ठेगाना देउ , साझा मा नि अली कती पैसा उथाउ र हाम्रो दिमाग खान छोड ।
५-६ दिन भो तिम्ले साझा लाई तुन्दिखेल नै बनाइराछौ । यहाँ हाम्लाई कराएर केइ हुने वाला छैन , नेपाल जाउ बन्दुक उथाउ , माओवादी लाई निसना बनाउ । खुन के बादला खुन !
@timer dont say anything like that bro , he will blame you as Maobadi ko chamcha and pray for your family to be dead.
गु लाई चलायो भने गनाउछ मात्र !
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arko euta video ma dui jana le kalo jhanda dekhaeko thiyo.... ekjana makkale ho ekjana pau lina didi ho.......??? chiniyo.. ...hajaraun manche le nakara bhanda ta kina bhaneko rahecha bhanera sochnu parcha ni....
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I don't accept violence. Violence and killing is never justified (unless in self defence as a last resort).
Here is my point.
1. Baburam might be good or bad prime minister. But it is completely irrelevant. The one who kills his own citizens should be trailed in an international court of law and should never lead the country. It brings lawlessness in the coutnry because other amred parties and groups will be in their right to believe that they will chose the path of violence to get to the power of the country and would not be punish. How will baburam set an example by himself being a mass murderer and trying to force law into other?
2. People who voices their opinion agianst maoist often on the grounds of human rights are often branded as congress, UML , rajabadi etc in an act of counterdefence. I know all the parties are corrupt. But if being corrupt is bad then killing lifes is unpardonable. There is no way one can bring the life back. And maoist leaders themselves has been nothing short in corrption.
3. I know baburam might be enjoying his days. These are his good days. He might be taking photographs with US president etc. But time will tell. All these tyrants and mass murderes have to suffer. Remember Mohammad gaddafi meeting with tony blair long time ago.You can still find Gaddafi and Tony Blair together if you type their name in google. But now UK is in war against Gaddari. Where is Gaddafi now. robert Mugabe was given Knighthood once . Now he is ostracize by the west.
When facebook says hatred will take us nowhere. We are not hating anybody. I personally don't hate anybody. I just believe in human right. Right of fair trail. I have seen one of my friend orphaned by Maoist in brutal assult. For people like him, it is imparative he should be taken to international court. WE have seen an innocent principal being dragged from school in front of his student and killed in most barbaric way. HIs only fault was that he didnt wanted marxist courses in his school. We have seen 8 year old girl burnt alive in the public bus by maoist.
A counter argument is always produced by maoist supporter by saying Nepal army also killed so many people but the fact is if there was no maoist , there would not have been a war. And yes, if Nepal Army head was found to be contravening against human right he must be trailed. NObody should be spared. ONly then there should be rule of law in Nepal. Maoist war have not been justified even after 20 years because the quality and peace of life in Nepal is worse than ever. Their war seems to be to get their top leaders into power who used poor people to their advantage. There is no corrption that maoist hasn't done that wasn't done by congress or UML. When Maoist was in power, one of the international index branded them as one of the most corrupt party.
Prachanda, gave 10 lakh to people who killed by Nepal Army but none to the people killed by Maoist. And from that 10 lakh majority went to the party. They are still getting millions every month in the name of PLA . Infact, PLA has been a cash cow to maoist party. LOok at their building in Paris dada, you will know how much corruption maoist have done. Not to forget about prahanda's golden bed.
Even if you leave all the killings aside, what have baburam done so far except for cheap publicity. Just to come to power maoist have shake hands with Pro-indian people in the madhesi party.
1. Remove daura suruwal as the national dress of Nepal. Only pro-indian madhesi leader were opposion daura suruwal as the national dress because they wanted to wear dhoti. NOw see, I saw in Nepali television, one madhesi leader was very happy and said he can now wear dhoti in international event.
2. Almost all the big factories in Nepal are shut down during last month or so. Reason....................Maoist Majdoor who works on the direct order of Maoist leaders. They are not fighting for thei rights. But following the leader of netas. Pleasa go and watch sajha sawal few weeks ago. What has baburam done about it.
3. Baburam going and speaking in UN is farcical. UNO was founded for peace in the world after second world war after millions were killed. How would it feel , if HITLER represented UN and very next day goes to some university and again says Nazism is the best thing. Baburams marxism has killed thousands. ONe day he speaks in UN next speaks in university abour marxism is farcial. Would he have dared to speak about Marksim in UN?
4. Anohter example of baburam being indian agent. When Hisila yami was foregin minister, she allowed separate indian checkpost inside TIA. It was unilateral decision . infact indian guards now can go around freely in one of the most secure places in TIA.
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NQ-bro, well said! but all your "Puran" will not get into the mind of " Ghurans". Btw, someone above said anti-maoist are seeking asylum, lol. brother go to jackson height/queens and know how many MAOISTS have filed asylum on account of them being victim of MAOISTS!! only maoists can do that so shut your mouth a***hole!
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no-queiro,
You have taken time to write such a great article. I'd recommend you send it to each and every media/groups you know. Just send it to their email address.
Your article is a BIG punch on the face of aatankavaadis. Real susbtance.
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जसले जे भने पनि बाबुराम भट्टराई जस्तो बिदवान मान्छे नेपाल को राजनैतिक छेत्र माँ कोई छैन भन्ने सबै लाई थाहा छ .
मकाले दाई/भाई र पनौली दिज्जू अब औने नेपाल को चुनाब माँ यहाँ हरु लाई उमेद्बरी लिन आग्रह गर्दछु. यहाँ हरु नेपाल फर्केर उमेद्बरी मात्र लिनु भयो भने म टिकेट काटेर यहाँ हरु लाई नै .भोट हालन नेपाल जाने छु . चाहे यहाँ हरु जुनै पार्टी (राजाबादी/काँग्रेस/एमाले /माओबादी) को हुनुहोस .
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Dhostai,
Second paragrah le khusi lagyo.
Pahil para let dukhi banayo. India ko JNU bata Phd gardai ma koi manchhe vidwan hundaina ni. Bidwan hune bittikai kunai manchhe ramro human being hune guarentee chhaina ni. Harek degree bhako manchhe best politicain hundaina ni. If we start thinking like that, then why don't we ask all the Harvard/MIT guys to become prime minister of Nepal for 5 years in rotation? JNU bhanda ta MIT/Harvard thulai ho ni.
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Saja-- I am with no_quiero, makalekancha, and kanchu..that makes us 4 people just in the thread!!
No that black flag displayer was not me.
I am too afraid of the YCL-killing my family back home. When I see Baburam, I see a murderer. His face just says "GUILTY."
They are murderers. I can only type here with courage.
Having said that, No_Quiero, i agree with Makalekancha-- please have your arugments published. I am very impressed by the way you have written. That is exactly how I feel. If the monarchy and the rest of the parties made mistakes, the Maoists have KILLED and MURDERRED. A crime against humanity.
Some day I will have the courage to show the black flag, this time I was just too afraid. And Saja, if I were there, I would have been LOUDER than everybody combined there. I would prolly SPIT ON HIS FACE. My emotions would not have been so civil.
Baburam is lucky that this time my courage held me back and he was not spit upon or thrown my pointy high heel shoes!!
GOD BLESS ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO DISPLAYED THE BLACK FLAG. BABURAM IS A MURDERER. HIS CASE STARTS AND ENDS RIGHT THERE. HE NEEDS TO BE TRIALLED IN AN INTERNATIONAL COURT OF LAW.
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Posted on 09-26-11 11:19
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no_quiero-- to add to your last bullet point.
Currently, baburam became a PM as a result of agreeing to a DANGEROUS 3 bullet agreement with the Madhesis, one to give Madhes to be autonomous +aaatma nirnaya ko adhikaar(meaning the madhesii CAN say they DO NOT WANT TO BE A PART OF NEPAL.)
And the most dangerous ONE is that THEY WILL ALLOW INDIAN MILITARY TO BE ON TIA ONCE AGAIN...
WHY ARE MADHESIS LOBBYING AS PART OF THEIR AGREEMENT FOR INDIAN MILITARY TO BE IN NEPAL or in TIA?? This shows how INDIAN the madhesis are.
And more importantly, this shows what kind of an illegal agreement BABURAM has agreed to become a PM. Nepal is not his for him to say that the Madhesis can be not just autonomous but also self determining..Baburam doesnt OWN madhes to say yes I will let you separate yourself from Nepal when i become a PM..!#$Q#@$@$??????????????
THAT IS NOT UPTO HIM TO ALLOW OR NOT ALLOW..HE HAS AGREED TO DO A RASTRA GHAATI THINGS ON THIS VERY DANGEROUS AGREEMENT WITH THE MADHESIS AND INDIA.
He is a traitor apart from being a MURDERER.
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