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 San made me a scapegoat

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Posted on 08-09-05 6:57 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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OK, "shree5" is my other user name.

Regarding the porn-pollution that underwent Sajha this morning

I instead tried to help hide such threads from the homepage window, as hushpuppy appealed, by creating multiple threads. I even sought the help of 2 of my "foreign" colleagues who were watching the "LANDING OF DISCOVERY" with me in our little workshop. I gave them my username and password and they also helped me in uploading "meaningless" threads.

Now, it seems that San has deleted all my postings as "shree5".

यो म माथिको अन्याय नभएर के हो ? Is this not "injustice" and if it is not, then what, in fact, is "injustice" ?

सानजी, शान नै देखाउनी खुबी छ भने त्यो अभद्र नाँगा तस्वीर टाँस्ने मान्छेको IP सहित ठेगाना, नाली बेली प्रकाशित गरम ।

San jee, if you have guts, reveal the IP and whatever IDs you have in your inventory of that poster who posted such graphic material in almost every visible thread, dont show your "shaan" by making "shree5" a scapegoat and banning his/her postings.

हेरम, कत्तिको खुबी रहेछ काजिको।

I ask my fellow friends and visitors to support me in this proposal of publishing out the info of this vulgur poster.

Keepp rolling...
 
Posted on 08-09-05 7:11 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Shree5/HanneTanne,

When there were more than 30 postings from you, instead of deleting them one by one, it made sense to disable all of them posted by you at once so that the sanctity of the site is returned right away.

Furthermore, I had sent you an email explaining to you that your other postings will be enabled soon, and that I appreciated your effort.

Copy of the text from my email to you:
"I have disabled all your posting for now because the front page was messed up. I will reenable your older postings in a little bit..... Best wishes and I appreciate your effort."

There is no need for negativism and pointing fingers here.
 
Posted on 08-09-05 7:39 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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ल कुरा त्यही हो।
म सबै कुराको साँछि छु।
 
Posted on 08-09-05 7:48 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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हैन ए, दादा! त्यो मेरी धोबिनीको च्यात्त्याऽऽऽऽ पेटिकोट कै कस्सम्, खासै कुरो चईं के र?छ? आफू त रातभरि काम गरेर, बिहान भरि सपना देखेर भर्खर उठ्दैछु। सपनामा साझा होमपेज खोल्दा एउटा कालो बिरालोले स्वात्त मोनिटर काटे जस्तो त लाग्याऽथ्यो।

भनम न भनम, हामी नि सुनम के र?छ त्यस्तो दादाले चाईन्जो ?परतेक्ष? देखेको कुरो।

 
Posted on 08-09-05 7:59 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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>>shree5
Mr. X comes and pollutes N threads . You guys then come and pollute another N just to hide the previous N resulting in a total of 2N polluted threads. Well, Mr. X's evil intention is successful more than he expected it to be.
People come to Sajha and see meaningless threads posted by hushpuppy and you. Getting slight clue that something abnormal had happened in previous threads, ppl navigate to the older threads to see what actually had happened. And they end up seeing the nude picture !!! That was the exact thing you didn't want them to do.
So Mr. X, by polluting N threads himself, not only successfully pollutes 2N threads but also manages to have your and hushpuppy's a/c blocked temporarily.
Well, i highly appreciate your feeling of duty towards sajha but these kind of guys are better off left alone and ignored.

As for posting his IP address, it may not be a good idea 'coz
1) It may not be legal to post somebody's personal data in a public forum depending on your locality.
2) Not all the computers on the Internet have a global IP add. The chances that the IP add. is of his gateway, web proxy, anonymous proxy or public proxy (like google web accelerator) is just too big to ignore .

>>San
We have to think something about this. He might come another day, register a new a/c and do the same thing and you will have to do the same thing u did today with tootbbrush in your hand.


 
Posted on 08-09-05 8:15 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Shree5 like in real world, let the cops handle these vandalisms. Don't take the matter into your own hands which resulted in more problem. Your are over reacting now.
 
Posted on 08-09-05 8:48 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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"OK, "shree5" is my other user name."

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I have never quite gotten around the idea why people post under different pseudonyms... I just dont understand..

But I think that's deception and also a bit rude to be quite honest. Arrgghhh....

Oh well.. I can't stop ppl from doing what they do, now can I? Each to his own.. and all that...
 
Posted on 08-09-05 9:51 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Folks, I would like to further clarify what I ACTUALLY MEANT

I have no grievances against San personally when he is trying to clean the mess up. What I really meant is if we can build up a concensus to allow San to publish the identity of such ill-willed persons who rather deface Sajha. I mean, this particular action was a real bad one and personally I would support San if he does anything in public to discourage this type of action.

Keep rolling...
 
Posted on 08-09-05 10:02 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I appreciated HanneTanne/Shree5's message to me (below). Anyways, thanks for everyone support as always.

Best wishes,
San


sorry san dai,
you took me wrong again, i m really sorry abt that. i think i do have a humorous kind-of image in sajha and mostly, ppl take me as such. that was more humor intended rather than a "challenge" with which i was SOLELY trying to bring more support in for you if you indeed intented to bash this evil poster and bring out his identity or whatever. the other thing was you did not ban hushpuppy and other fellows who were collaborating to hide this mess but deleted only my postings. Please, dont take me wrong, my sole intention was to gather concensus to isolate that porn-poster and make it easy to reveal his/her identity if you wanted to do that. Please take that thread off, i would have done that myself seeing you offended but i can not, so if it offends you, please take that thread off, i wish sajha remains a decent place as always.

sorry hai if my actions took a negative course which i never intended.

all the best

cheers,

 
Posted on 08-09-05 10:48 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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My stand on revealing the IP address as requested (challanged?), "सानजी, शान नै देखाउनी खुबी छ भने त्यो अभद्र नाँगा तस्वीर टाँस्ने मान्छेको IP सहित ठेगाना, नाली बेली प्रकाशित गरम ।" is as follows:

I don't want to perpetrate this instance of intolerance and cyber vandalism by trying to identify the IP address of the perpretrator. IP address does not spell out a persons name and address. IP address only shows the internet service provider that a person is using so it could be anyone using that ISP at that point.

As far as prevention goes. Thanks to a similar perpetrator in the past, I have created a very simple method to deter or reduce such scenes in sajha. Previously even when a username was banned, someone could register another username right away and flood kurakani with inappropriate/blank messages. Because of similar such incident in the past I have had to come up with better ways of stopping this than to have to block the whole domain from accessing sajha.

Thesedays users who register usernames have to be approved before they are allowed to post. This is to make sure that people with ill intent are not allowed to post in sajha by not approving users from few particular domains. I tend to be very lenient about approving so I started approving people from the "problem" domain as well.

And it so happened that this case of vandalism also came from the same domain as the one before, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same person. And the person did have reason for flooding again after few exchanges of emails few days back regarding some non issue which he believed was a big deal. In the past too this person flooded because he had a reason to. I hope this person realizes that such acts of hate are pretty useless because it obviously takes a lot of effort on his part to post such explicit pornographic images and this time it took him a total of one hour to do this act. All that effort is wasted when it takes me less than a minute to delete all his posting and ban him from posting any more in sajha.

I am not going to be approving any registrations from that particular domain for a while, which is regrettable since people from that domain won't be able to post, but the bright side of it is that they will still be able to view everything.

If you notice such acts in future please don't create multiple floodings.

Best wishes,
San
 
Posted on 08-09-05 11:17 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Just to add one more point: If you are logged in with your registered username, you can easily click on "Notify to Admi" link on every posting on the threads. It might take a while for San to read this notification, however, it has worked well before.
 
Posted on 08-09-05 3:13 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Shree5, you know, (scape)goats don't dope! This might be the perfect time for you to give up doping! ;)
 
Posted on 08-09-05 4:15 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Shree5 bro,
Don't give up!
BTW wot teh fuss is all abt?
Keep Rolling ;)

 
Posted on 04-07-06 7:22 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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"सानजी, शान नै देखाउनी खुबी छ भने त्यो अभद्र नाँगा तस्वीर टाँस्ने मान्छेको IP सहित ठेगाना, नाली बेली प्रकाशित गरम ।"

That's quite a low-level comment. Before San can do that, San will have to first publish Shree5 or Hannetanne's IP. Even the nickname 'Hannetanne' is so obscene already!!! That alone speaks of the quality of the metality of the author of that person!!
 
Posted on 04-07-06 7:27 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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हेरम, कत्तिको खुबी रहेछ काजिको। Read that sentence.. that sounds pretty bad.
 
Posted on 04-07-06 7:34 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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i thought Shree5 was the funniest guy in alive making every thread lively and very Nepali. I am sure there is some misunderstanding. I am with with you Shree5.

Just stop rolling and things will be fine
 
Posted on 04-07-06 7:37 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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यो ८ महिना पुरानो धागो कुन अभिप्रायले यहाँ निस्कियो ? ताल तालका मान्छे देख्नु पर्छ बा !
 
Posted on 04-07-06 8:08 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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भउतेजी,

कस्ले निकालेको भन्ने हेर्दा नै पुग्दैन र? क्यानाडामा कार्यरत भगुवा प्रोफेसरहरु (शरणार्थीहरु!)को बारेमा केहि समय अगाडी चर्चा भको बिर्सिनु भयो?

एकपटक त्यो निकाल्ने युजरका केहि समय अगाडिदेखिका साझाका पोष्ट हेर्नु भयो भने मानसिक बिक्षिपताले ग्रसित, असन्तुलित र तस्त्र मानिसले कतिसम्म तल्लो स्तरमा गिरेर आफ्नो नांगोपना प्रर्दशन गर्न सक्छ भन्ने कुरा देखाउँदैन र?
 
Posted on 04-07-06 8:13 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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khai ke bhayo? kallai bhaneko? ke bhaneko? kina bhaneko? bhaneko... bhaneko...?
 
Posted on 04-07-06 10:01 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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What the heck...Things are already settled.
What's the purpose of pulling this thread again?

यो ८ महिना पुरानो धागो कुन अभिप्रायले यहाँ निस्कियो ? ताल तालका मान्छे देख्नु पर्छ बा !
 



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