Damn, can't believe that the Indians (or dhotis for some here) have reached the pinnacle of the Banking sector now. First it was the ailrine industry and then the IT sector and now they've gone to bag the biggest prize out there. Instead of us Neps blasting dhotis at every step, there are a few I'm proud to take my hat off to. Seems like we're still way behind them in terms of their achievements in the US Corporations:

Vikram Pandit: CEO Citibank

Ramani Ayer: Hartford Financial

Indra Nooyi: CEO Pepsi Co

Vinod Khosla, co-founder of Sun Microsystems

Sabeer Bhatia, founder of HotMail

Professor Amar Bose, founder of Bose sound systems

Rakesh Gangwal: CEO US Airways

Subodh Karnik: CEO ATA Airlines

Raj Gupta: CEO Rohm and Haas

Rajat Gupta: McKinsey and Co aka "The" Firm

 

Lets try and emulate them instead of labeling everyone from India as being stereotyipical dhotis.  I'd love to see a Nepali make it too the list too...Hopefully someday!!

 

 

Isn't the top guy of the top B-school, "Kellog School of Management, Northwestern University" also an Indian or of Indian origin?

All this happened because of far-sighted wisdom of Jawaharlal Nehru.  After independence, Nehru spent considerable resources in building academic institution, notably Indian Institutes of Technology.  What we see now is direct consequence of that.

Wouldn't it be something if Nepal had such a leader?  Our Netas are too busy chasing the chair and once getting to the chair, they are too busy retaining it.

Samsara,

An interesting list.

Just a slight revision: The big man at McKinsey these days is: Ian Davis.
He replaced Rajat Gupta a few years ago.

Here's his bio:
http://www.mckinsey.com/aboutus/whoweare/md/index.asp

Citi is a troubled company, in need of a big fix. It remains to be seen how Pandit turns this behemoth around. He himself joined Citi last April,
and though he's great with numbers and all that, it's not clear that he
can come up with a strategy to map the unknowns that face Citi.

Will he break it up? Will he sell off some divisions? Will he keep
everything together and somehow find a way to ride out the housing
crisis? It'll be interesting to watch how he makes decisions, and what
those decisions will mean for Citi. I find many of these future-oriented decisions to be in the province of 'art' than of 'science'.

As for Nepalis, I am sure some will get to such posts. . .  eventually in 20
to 50 years, if not sooner.

But one difference I, in my limited experience, see between my (former) Nepali colleagues and (former) Indian colleagues is that of mindset:
Nepalis tend to give up too easily when confronted with difficult
problems; Indians with comparable IQs and intelligence seem to persist
on and on, until they find/solve the problems. This is the only thing I
found that's remarkably different between my smart Nepali colleagues and
smart Indian colleagues.

And success in anything in life is NOT a matter of high IQ or intelligence
or even a collection of fancy degrees but of sheer, single-minded
persistence to get what you want.

Just my two paisa.

On another note, you may find this interesting on what makes an effective CEO:
http://www-news.uchicago.edu/citations/07/071119.kaplan-wsj.html

GP-ji, enjoyed your take.

oohi
"sleepless in CatMando"
ashu

 

Samsara, very good thread!! Thanks for starting.

Indians are doing great all over the world. But please wait, I will come up with some Nepalis who r doing good. But of course u cant compare with Indian BigShots.

No doubt on Indian's are achievement. I liked this thread. Good information. This thread is focusing on the good things about Indians. Now flip your coin and see the other part. Indians are probably doing the terribly stupid things in the world. This is all about MASS POPULATION. Probability of doing good and bad is distributed somewhat proportionately. I want to see the list of bad things done by indians and compare with the good things. Be clear that my intention is not to demoralize Indians but to get an idea between bad and good things circumscribing these Indians.

Once again thanks Samsara for such a good thread. No doubt, Indians are doing good and as a fellow neighbour sometimes its good to be proud of them.

Though we Nepalese are far behind Indians but as GP jee has mentioned earlier, I hope the scenario would be totally different after 20-30 years. This year alone 8000 Nepali students landed to the US and same numbers to Aus, UK, Europe and elsewhere. Even if just 1% of those students master in their filed, it will be great achievement.

I am deeply touched by GP jee's thoughtful analysis and it forced me to dig his older postings. I really salute his ideas. I also agree with foolsparadise's appreciation on Sum_Off's flair of writing. He, by no means is less than any other international writers. I have just finished the famous novel BRICKLANE nominated for the prestigious award Booker Prize. To be very honest, I found Sum Off's writing more appealing than Monica Ali's. Sajha Gazer is another talented writer here in Sajha. But foolparadise jee, there are many Chhupa Rustams in sajha who would love to keep low profile. Ashu Dai is another example, a Harvard returnee, I think he is also an IIT alumni.

Talking about Indian Schools they have world class service and they do have cut- throat competition. I am very aware of hardworking Indian students who toil day and night to get in IITs, IIMs, AIIMs.

He is not as famous as Vikram Pandit nor he has a mind like Sabeer Bhatiya but he surely is a pride of all Nepalis, Kul Chandra Gautam.

Found some really encouraging stuff in net and thought it will  be useful for we all students who are struggling hard to make our own mark.

 Kul Chandra Gautam, Deputy Executive Director, UNICEF, revealed 5 principles that according to him brought him to this stage:

1. Find a silver lining in every dark cloud. 
2. Take a long-term view of life. 
3. Do the unexpected. 
4. Always go beyond the call of duty.
5. Never forget where I came from.  

He explained all above points to us in detail:

Find a ‘Silver Lining’ in Every Dark Cloud

The world is so full of misery, injustice and hatred. It is easy to be discouraged.  Whenever we Nepalese get together we always gripe about how there is so much corruption inefficiency and inequity in our country. That is, of course true.  But believe me, in my work for the United Nations I come across countries and regimes that in some respects are in far worse shape. 

Whether it is genocide in Rwanda, the medieval barbarism in the Taleban led Afghanistan, the ethnic cleansing in Bosnia, the failed state syndrome of Somalia, the catastrophe of HIV/AIDS that is decimating sub-Saharan Africa…the list could just go on and on. 

But you know, in all such horrendous situations, you can always find some glimmer of hope. A few brave people, making their mark, against all odds. 

Every dark cloud has a ‘Silver Lining’. Positive thinking not only helps keep one’s sanity, but can actually energize you.

Take a Long Term View of Life

In the day-to-day life of a person or an institution or a nation, there are always things that go wrong and upset you. Don’t let that weigh you down.  If you persist and persevere, even against great odds, chances are that things will work out for the better.  Similarly, don't be impatient or tempted to take advantage of opportunities for short-term gains or instant gratification. Go for things that are of lasting value that you will feel proud of over the long haul. 

This principle has served me well in both my personal and professional life.

Do the Unexpected

I have found it both personally and professionally rewarding to do things that surprise people, in a positive way. 

We all tend to do things that our family, society, colleagues expect us to do – and do them well. But if you want to shine and be noticed, sometimes it is good to do things that people don’t expect you to do.  For example, I told myself that I would study something that most Nepalese would not consider doing. Learn French, and be fluent in it.  Well that served me very well. In my career at the United Nations, I have served with great excitement in many French-speaking countries.  When I visit francophone countries in Europe and Africa, and can dialogue with leaders directly in their own language, I feel much more effective in my advocacy role.

In fact, inspired by this experience, I learned Spanish and served in Latin America. I got to know a whole new part of the world, and enjoyed it thoroughly and that too helped in my career advancement.

We Nepalese, and Asians in general, tend to ask and expect our children to study certain subjects, do certain jobs and don’t really value extra-curricular activities. I would ask us to encourage our kids to break new ground and do the unexpected. 

You will note that many of the people being recognized here today for making their mark have done things that are out of the ordinary.   

Always Go Beyond the Call of Duty

In every job I have undertaken, I ask myself what would my boss or my colleagues expect me to do, if I were to be seen as a high performer. Then, I tell myself, let me do something beyond that.  Thus, I often volunteer to do things that are not in my normal job description. I try to contribute ideas in areas beyond the scope of my department’s work. In other words, go beyond the call of duty.  Of course, this means working much longer hours than normal, working on weekends and holidays, cutting down on vacation time.  

I acknowledge that, some of these are bad habits and maybe unhealthy and unwise. But I do these not out of any compulsion, but voluntarily and joyfully.  So long as you enjoy it and find a sense of fulfillment - hard work, I guess, is no sin. 

Never forget where you came from

When one acquires good name and fame and certain prosperity, one tends to get spoiled and begin to take such privileges of life for granted.  We complain so often about little inconveniences and discomfort. Whenever I feel discouraged, I remind myself – but just think, how lucky I am. Compared to the hardships that people endure in my village, in my country, in so many other countries of the world, I am so fortunate.

America is a land of instant gratification with its bountiful wealth and resources. When people do not get whatever they fancy, instantaneously, they tend to feel deprived. But let us remember that all of us in this room are luckier than 5 billion people in the world. 

Whenever I meet world leaders, hobnob with celebrities, interact with people with power and influence, I constantly remind myself of my humble origins. My little village of Amarpur in western Gulmi where there is no road, no electricity, no telephone, no television, and of course, no internet. I remember the enormous generosity and cordiality of the people there in spite of their grinding poverty. The images of my childhood friends and neighbors, who are struggling for survival, mired in poverty, disease, malnutrition and powerlessness, is never far from my mind and heart.

I feel I owe the good people of my village an enormous debt of gratitude. I feel I have been so lucky because of their blessing and good wishes. 

I have started a small community development project in Amarpur in memory of my mother who passed away a few years ago. The project provides help in the areas of basic health care and education, especially for girls and women.  But I know I need to do much more. That will certainly be one of my main post-retirement projects.

http://www.nepalireland.org/NHOB_Archive/mr_kul_gautam.htm

From http://kulgautam.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=174&Itemid=55

 

I am very much shocked to read the above scanned news clip on KulGautam.org.

I do not much about Dr. Thapa except to one article on geography. Nonetheless, he is a faculty there, but that alone does not pushes him into the league of big and brightest...we are talking about movers and shakers of America. And if you were talking about Nepali diaspora we have some more people with similar credentials- Ph. D with several publications and teaching. Here was one thread on them too.

 

Btw GP, including my chimeki kaka, I know many people who went to Roorkee Engineering College, IIT/R now, but no one had to appear for IIT-JEE (Entrance exam for IIT) as they were selected by Nepal government for Karnali Hydro Project. If im not wrong remembering all what they told me then, Nepal Government sent 200 + individuals in 1980s to that college...UNDP managed all that. All true? How lucky were you at that time?

i hate dhoties too but we can only learn from these dhoties....

India is not just like Bihar.....came to know some dhoties from puna, bombay, banglore and southern part.....they are actually better people!

i believe the best solution for us nepalis is to try our own capability, knowing self is most important, criticizing others and making for of other might give instanteneous fun but actually its waste of time none different from what a corpse would be doing in that situation.

know thyself!

GP, whether Krishna's statement applies to you or not, you definitely should use and pimp your IIT name with no shame.  Nehru tried to emulate the MIT in India by creating IIT which has now surpassed the one it was modelled after (MIT) in terms of producing the best students in engineering and technology.  The cat must've done a 360 turn on his grave!!  BTW, In corporate America tody, if applying to any trading position (be it for commodities, FI and equities, etc.), just the name IIT will push your name among the interviewees...After that its what and how you make of it.  Damn, IIT!!  They had the school featured in CNBC a couple of years ago and they interviewed Vinod Khosla, the co-founder of Sun and he literally lifted all IIT students balls and held it on top of his head.  They interviewd students who were not accepted into IIT but ended upw ith full scholarships to MIT, Cornell and Harvard.  No wonder look at the list I put up on this thread...The IIT alums are:

Ramani Ayer

Vinod Khosla

Rakesh Gangwal

Rajat Gupta

Many more in other sectors that are not among the Fortune 500.

Thanks Ashu for dropping by.  And as per Amazing, you too were an IIT alum (?).  If so, I could see where your entrepreneurial/leadership instincts arose from.  Good to read your post as always.  Amazing bro, keep em coming.

For all the Neps in IIT or all its Nep alums, I salute you!!

Samsara, thank you very much for the first line on me, and rest on IITs. IIT was numbered among top 5 (technical universities) in 200x in the world ranking: First MIT, Second Imperial College, .... And, later I heard from my Alumni discussion forum that IIT was even ranked top 3 (I have not confirmed, yet). FYI, my own classmate (one of my best friend of my life) from Nepal got best outgoing student award, and his overall percentage was third in the class. My performance in IIT is not important here in Sajha.com. I know who am I, and where I lie on the rank. I can tell this much. When I took the very first entrance exam in Engineering in Nepal, I got the highest score on entrance exam part. I did not have to see the list to know my result, the dean of IOE stopped his car on main road asked me "Are you ...?". It is not Mapai. It is what I am proud of, and I remember my friends who were waiting to see the list went to store in front of the gate, and bought some Abir, and had Abir Jatra .... Wow. In fact, I sneaked out of a relative's Bihe ko Janti, and went to see the result. When returned to Janti, people were amazed to see me red colored everywhere. Imagine, people wanted to get scholarship to study any engineering any where in the world, and there is this chance right on your backyard, how happy would you be? Well, having said that, these don't count now, now I am working hard to move ahead, and I am not going to do like in Nepali Proverb: "Baje le ghiu khaye ka thiye bhanera naak dadi nichorera hundaina". I don't call me a lucky, I got based on what I did.

Let me give you my background on how I went to Roorkee, the oldest "modern" engineering college in asia. When I was in a college in Kathmandu, we did not have enough teachers. Some of our classes like chemistry, had only 5-6 classes in the whole academic year, because our Chemistry Guruma became pregnant, and we never had replacement despite of our continous requests. I do not blame her preganancy, and I consider her one of my great chemistry guruma I ever had. There were HADTAAL almost every month if not week,  as you know. I remember one of my teacher whom I met in Bus on that day was asking, why the hell you guys have hadtaal every other day. I told him, it is akhiles, and he asked the like minded to come, and he will teach us. I hate Akhile "skin heads" for all these things. Then we had a final, as you know, courses not covered, and questions splashed from everywhere. What will you do? Boycot. First year's exam postponed for next year, TU did not listen to our requests to give us a second chance. We spent days in TU's VC's office picketing. Next year, we had to take exams of two year's course in just a month or so. Every alternate day we had exam, its weight was 80%. Finally, exam was over. Result was on process. It took 8 months to get my result of the exam. It was TU's style, poor performance. My two years course needed me 5 years to finish it (between SLC result to admission to BE program).

In the meantime, my father gave me an assignment at the age of 20, and that was to make one BRAND NEW house on a land that he got as a part of "Ansa" when my big family separated. He gave me 20,000 a loan from Sanchaya Kosh. Making house in 20,000 by a 20 year boy? What a dream my father had! I had to take it, because I was doing nothing, but with a condition that I told my father that after this, I am allowed to leave KTM for my entrance exam prepartion, because I wanted to go to Roorkee. My uncle got BE degree a long time ago when I was kid, it was also from Roorkee, and I used to hear great stories about Roorkee as a child, and when I was kid I was watching the Bridge construction in Bijayapur Khola in Pokhara by Chinese engineers .... I remember 1000s of people came to watch the girder being lifted and placed in position. Chinese Engineers and labors were wearing helmets. All these inspired me, to go to take Roorkee Univ's entrance exam in Kathmandu. Unfortunately, I saw the bridge washed away. In the morning of the night (rainfall: about 560 (if not 360, I forgot the exact number) mm in 24 hours) I went to see the same bridge lying on the river bed. I feel very sorry for the replacement we have on that river.

So, I started from ground zero to construct the house. In fact, we had 3 parters in the earlier biz and we got 1/3 of land, so separating 1/3 from existing house was a tough job, to me at an age of 20. I hired a man who was a contractor in nearby house construction site. I explained what he has to do. You know what he trimmed a seasoned timber girder, and told me that he will pay 20 rupees, and I did not know that it was SAAL, and let him take away, and he asked a timber company to take it. I informed my father about selling that log, and my father certainly got furious over the contractor, and asked me to take the wood piece back, and he told me to use it to make doors and windows, and its a seasoned wood. Learning by doing. I did not sell anything after that, any thing left I took it back to home.

Dismantling the old was over, and now about foundation, wow, I had to dig a foundation trench between two houses. The contractor did it withotu worrying about adjacent house's safety (I won't do it second time, NOPE), and it did not have any support to existing house. If its in US, I would have already landed in Jail for risking other's house. I did not know the consequences .... Then, placed column foundations, and an old  guy behind our land used to come and watch every day, and warn me every day that if I occupy even an inch he will bring people and dismantle my house. I was scared, and I decided to leave few inches off to avoid a trouble. The construcion kept going much faster than I anticipated. Since it was right on chipledhunga, people wanted to rent it. The previous guy who had a bicycle store in same property, told that he want to continue. I asked him to pay one year's rent in advance because I have to pay the price to construction material, and my father's budget to me was only 20,000. I got metal rods, cement from a store right infront of our site, and he trusted me because the construction was on his front. Thanks to him for the trust he had on me. I still love to remember the lunch I used to have at Thakalni Didi's resturant, it was so great. For two months her resturant was my favorite. From early morning (I left home 6:30?) to late evening I was watching like video movie. On bicycle, every day 10km. Finally, I had 32,000 in my hand, and later one of former school teacher came offered another help. He told me that he has a big truck, and he had money stucked (FASEKO) in a Concrete brick factory, and he wanted me to use his bricks and pay him later whenever I can ... years later. Wow, k khojchas kana ankha. I had a great deal, he brought all bricks that I needed. A metal worker helped me out to make shutter in loan to be paid later (4,000). I am amazed to find people's helping hand. The house was ready exactly on 60th day. My father came only for 3 times during the whole period of construction. He trusted me, right? Thats how I will consider to make me feel better, but my mom joked later that he was in fact afraid of anyone coming to complain against my actions, and my father denied it, and said "Yatro 20 barsha ko manche le garchha bhanne malai thaha chha ni ta". Anway, I enjoyed the 60 days challenge. I gave key to the tenant, and left for Kathmandu. I still did not have result on final exams. So, what! I have to prepare for Roorkee Entrance exam, my long time dream, and it had to be achieved.

Before the result was out, there were Bagmati coaching center in KTM run by a Amrit Sc College teacher, Mr. Gyawali. I joined it, paid 200 admission fee, and paid 200 tuition fee. I went there only 2-3 three days, then the teachers did not come. The owner of the coaching center Mr. Gyawali told that he can not help. What about my 400? He said, it can not be returned. He did not provide another teacher. Many students had already joined about 1 month ago, and I was in the middle. For them, it was time to pay second installment, but for me 3 days, and all money gone. I was ashamed. My friends who where in the coachign center approached the same math teachers who were just 500 m away from my residence, and asked me to join them. I told them I don't have money. Now, I am going to study on my own. Later I found that these teachers started working in the same coaching center, and it was a drama by Mr. Gyawali. Well, I had no choice but to get admission at Roorkee. I continued my studies alone without help from anyone. I did not have a single guide book, and the only things that I had were only book and white paper.

In the meantime, Pulchowk campus announced entrance exam, and my Inter result was not yet. Finally, we had result only a couple of days away from deadline for application. Out 500 students in our batch, only 35 passed that year, and I was one of them. I remember I spent a whole day in Ministry of Finance to find someone to sign my certificates ATTESTED. One guy came out said, Bhai timi dinbhari khojda pani koi bhetenou, I will help you. He took me to a section officer and requested him to do. I filed my application. I tood the entrance exam.

I took the entrance exam (first ever entrance exam in undergraduate Engineering education Nepal's history), and passed it. Got admission. My dream of becoming an engineer done, but I have another i.e. going to Roorkee and see what my uncle did there. Finally, roorkee entrance exam was held in Padma Kanya campus. Passed the entrance exam, the exam was fully controlled / monitored by Roorkee Univ Professors/team. Interviewed. We got it.

You know what, the result of entrance was on my birthday. It was greatest birthday gift to me. My father gave me a tie, who went to check the result separtely. I still have that tie. Now, comes to selecting Roorkee or Pulchowk. My mom wanted me to stay in Nepal and study there, but certainly every one else wanted me to take a new ride. My mom wanted it, because my elder brother was in Russia, and he did not return for last couple of years since he left Nepal. He was not sending even letters for last one year. We knew nothing about him, and his current situation, and when we approached the USSR(Russian) embassy in Nepal, and Nepal's Education Ministry through which he went there for higher studies did not show any interest to help us find him. Neither foreign ministry helped us. My self and my father went here and there seeking help. That was frustrating moment to my parents.

I told my mom, I am coming home every five months. I promised that, because I didn't want to miss this great opportunity to study in Roorkee Univ.  Then, I resigned from Pulchowk campus's admitted student's list to let someone else have get the opportunity to become an engineer. I left for Roorkee. My very first score in Roorkee started with 0 Zero, and my last exam score was I believe 100 out 100. In first semester, in order to catch the speed of UOR's education, I slept only between 4 am to 7 am (just 3 hours). First midterm test was over. My thermodynamics teacher called "Who is ...?" in lecture class, and he said this guy got almost perfect in the exam, congratulations. At that moment, I had high fever (104), and in the later afternoo I found my place in Univ hospital bed just in 1.5 month of stay in UOR. Imagine what would you do? Emotionally.

I met several Nepali seniors in the hospital. Learned their stories and they counseled me: an informal, but a great relief. We went to see movies in town while officially in hospital bed. Gradually we were on track, and final exam was over and returned to Nepal in Indian Railways. Wow, another amazing experience in Lucknow, Gorakhpur .... and in Nepal-India border. In January, we went back to campus. In a couple of days, we had great stories to hear about grades. Wow, .............. story unfolded all over hostel, mess ... senior started asking who is GP!!!!! GP became a brand.

FYI, we Nepalis had serial number odd, and Indian students had even. We studied with them in 50/50 class, and certainly there were students in Roorke from Africa and middle east. But, Nepalis lined up with Indians, teachers never gave special favor to neither side. We were equally treated all throughout 4 years. There were batches from Africa separately taught (away from Indian student's class). In few batches, Nepalis bagged the highest prize for outstanding achievement in exams. Roorkee graduate brough a new standard in Nepal, because Pulchowk campus has to set higher standard to compete with Roorkee Alumni in Nepal in consulting to job, and today, Pulchowk Campus graduates are pride of Nepal, and Roorkee Alumni brought a new standard to Nepal's technical education  --particularly in engineering--. I was on fifth batch of Karnali, and there were two more batches in Mahakali, plus colombo plan scholarship based students, and I guess Roorkee Alumni Association in Nepal is probably the largest association of Nepalis who graduated outside Nepal. Roorkee gave majority of Nepal's engineering secretaries in different ministries. I love Roorkee. I want to take my family one day there. Whenever we went somewhere in India, when we said we are UOR students, we got special favor, best treatment, polite replies, even from TT babu in Indian Railways, to India-Nepal border custom officers.

I was very surprised to see my uncle's classmate as my teacher, and some of his teachers were my own teacher. Now, my friends are teacher as well. After 2001(?), UOR changed to IIT/R even after a strong objection from public, because while it was roor univ. in-state people had special quotas, but once the funding started coming from central govt. the state does not get any special favor. The main reason for shifting to IIT/R from UOR was shrinking funds from state (Pradesh) government. IITs were no more UOR's rival, because UOR is now IIT. Our cut throat competition is over with IIT. It changed name several times, in its 160+ years of history. If you are going to Haridwar-rishikesh, you can drop by Roorkee. It is about 185 km fro New Delhi on the way to Haridwar, and 75 km from Dehara dun (we used to go to Deharadun to see special movies in great halls), and 500 km from Lucknow towards Punjab. It is a safest city in India. I stayed in IIT Delhi's hostel for about 1 month during our summer intern at Delhi Metropolitan's "Mayor" Office. IIT Delhi campus is huge, but IITR's campus is not that big but everything is in short walking distance. IIT/D has very dry life, but IITR has wonderful life just outside the campus. Have Fun. Rest later.

GP

Samsara & Amazing,

No, I have never been to an IIT, much less attended one!

I caught my 'business bug', so to speak, while working on behalf of the bonded Tharu agricultural laborers (aka kamaiya) deep in the villages of
far Western Nepal . . . when I saw that the meager earnings that a family took home every night from their micro-business  gave them a lot more pride, dignity and a belief in hard work than development aid ever
could.

In one form or other, that lesson has stayed with me, quite vividly.

oohi
ashu

Hey brother, if your 10 thousands words are in response to my one simple query, its absolutely unwarranted.

I just wanted to know were you one of them sent to Roorkee as part of that hydro project or you went to India on your own to appear for IIT entrance. Why did you open the pandora box? everyone has something to talk about.....pain, struggle, achievement are part of this game....iss kentucky kaluwa ke pass bhi thoda bahut hai wo sab...

 

and if writing toooooooooooooooo long is your first love, then you must thank me.

केटा केटी हो, तिमीहरुले बिहार बाट आउने बिहारी लाई मात्रै भारतीय ठन्दछौ। तेसैले धोती भनी हेला गर्छौ। त्यो घ्रिणा लाई हटाउने प्रयास गर।
हे र्दै जाउ, कहाँ कहाँ पुग्दैनन यिनी हरु।
एउटा किस्सा मा' तेन्जिङ नोर्गे र हिलारी सगरमाथा को चुलिमा पुग्दा त एउटा भारतीय ले आफ्नो अड्डा जमाइ सकेको" रहेछ। RE
उनिहरुले दु:ख भोगे, ब्रिटिश ले धेरै सिकएर गयो, उधयम्सिल बनाइ दियो। हामीहरु हात माथि हात राखेर वा डुकु लन्ठक भए पनि बाबु साहेब बनेर बस्न रुचाउछोऔ।
बाबु हरु जसरी धोती भन्छौ, तेसै गरी हामी हरुलाई "बहादुर " भन्छन र हामी आझै बहादुरकै दर्जामा छौ।
धोती भनेर मा त्र हुँदैन , जहाँ नापहुचे रबी तहा पहुचे धोती।

Read this link: Another story on Indians taking over or trying to take over world's leading biz:

http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/openThread.cfm?forum=2&threadid=54084

Democracy in India since 1947, by taking side with USSR durig the cold war era, and by shaking hand with America in post cold war era, Indians got all time in their favor, and they are the most benefitted people in the world in last 60 years after second world war. Thanks to Mahatma Gandhi's Charkha andolan. As I wrote before, by sidelining with USSR, they were growing into biz, protected their market (you can say it was a firewall against American and Japanese goods in indian market) from American and Japanese goods ' invasion. Pakistan suffered the fate by not having its own always relying military coups under CIA advice.  Pakistan is almost there where it was in 1947. Oops, yes Pakistan developed, but it was not because Pakistanis achieved because of their hard work, it was because time brought. Today, Indians are expanding beyond South Asia, much faster than you can imagine. Great Indeed. Nepal as the only open bordered neighbor of India, Nepalis will benefit from this provided this political mess get cleared. We are going to get rid of Maoists very soon, thanks to YCL/Maoists atrocities in post 2063 andolan. They will soon return to Rolpa, Nepal will catch speed back to track.

Oops, what is wrong! If you don't like it, then don't read it. If you like it, and if you wish, then you can tell us your story as well. No one is forcing anyone, neither you nor me. I chose to do so, why should you be annoyed by my several kWords. If there is someone who has to worry, that is San, the system admin of Sajha.com. Be positive bro. You told me that I was out of context when I refered Mr. KT in this thread, I deleted Mr. KT's information.  I did not say any thing to you. Don't get frustrated. If think that I or any one has over-reacted, go back and turn pages, whether your posting had anything that provoked someone. It is not bad to look back and see, and realize whether there was some thing you missed. Don't think that everything people write is in response to your posting. People don't have time to respond to the negative side of your posting. Forget it. I will neglect your or anyone else's negative postings on me. San has done a great job by letting us edit the already posted items. I can do it, if I think that any postings are not at right, not at right place. I am not here to argue with you. This is my last posting that I will ever respond to you, unless you come up with worthy of responding. You can even write four letter word on me, and expose yourself. My suggestion is don't get provoked. Period. Have fun.You have great holidays and Happy new year 2008. Life is full of surprises. --GP

Sorry for multiple postings!

fustrated and me...ha haa...where and how did you find me frustrated in my posts? Believe me god is still willing...try something for your hollow head.

GP ji,

Your life story is really impressive. It is Sajha's pride to have you in this forum. I read all your story and truely impressed me. Some people are born talented and some are hard working. But seems you are mixture of both.  I hope it will give inspiration to others to work hard and harder to get thier goal in life.

Now some thoughts on this high achievement in life thing.What you did it is good for you and your family. You and your family members will be very proud of you. But for society it matters only if you payback to your society or community it doesn't matter how talented you are or how hard working. In this context I remember one first boy of my school in Nepal who was very talented. Like other first boys he also got engineer degree in govt.scholrship and got a Civil Engineer job in HMG(then). Later I came to know that he was one of the most corrupt engineer in that minsitry and worse thing, he used to spend that currupt money on Alcohal in those Bhattis (though he is from a traditional Brahmin family). Probably he built a bunglaw in KTM for his family, added some property. But sometimes I used to think what did the community got from him. What did his village get from him, what did his school get which used to be proud of him. 

For our society we need not only talented people (like you) but commited, honest and morally strong nepalis to lift the society like Anuradha Koirala, Late Madan Bhandari, Delli Raman Regmi, Kulchandra Goutam and so  on.................. 

My intention is not to see you also from that same glass. Never, even not in my remote imagination. Just wanted to share my thinkings which was accumulatiing inside me from a long time. I hope I did not hurt you. If I, please apologize me.

Thanks for reading this long thought. Cheers...........